Trouble getting 6" brush up chimney

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Jerry_NJ

Minister of Fire
Apr 19, 2008
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New Jersey USA
Sorry to go to a subject I though was answered last year, but I got stopped again this year. Also, I can't find threads I started last year, searching on subject like "chimney cleaning" and "chimney brush" hasn't turned up any of the posts I'd like to re-read. When I search on my "handle" I seem to get only threads I was involved with this year, and there haven't been very many.

The problem is I could not get a heavy duty plastic 6" round brush up past the jog back from the top of my Quadrafire Insert and the 6" SS pipe run up my masonry chimney. What I remember from last year was it was suggested I get a medium duty, which has smaller diameter (less stiff) bristles. Digging through my tool box I came up with a 6" very stiff brush that had the lower half cut off, it would not go up the chimney. I also found a medium duty that was full, not bristles removed. I couldn't get it past the jog-back bend either. With may poor memory, I now wonder if I somehow forced the cut down heavy duty or the medium duty up the chimney last year. I do remember getting the brush up to what felt like the top... I have 28' of rods and think that reaches the chimney cap.

I am now thinking I may need to try the Sooteater or similar, anything that doesn't have a form that is supposed to fill the diameter of the liner.
 
Are you trying to push it with rod or pull it with rope? Pulling it with a rope (a rope on both ends so you cant loose it) might get it around the bend...
 
Whoa! Two folks we haven't seen in a long time.

I will see if I can't find last years posts.
 
Jerry_NJ said:
Sorry to go to a subject I though was answered last year, but I got stopped again this year. Also, I can't find threads I started last year, searching on subject like "chimney cleaning" and "chimney brush" hasn't turned up any of the posts I'd like to re-read. When I search on my "handle" I seem to get only threads I was involved with this year, and there haven't been very many.

The problem is I could not get a heavy duty plastic 6" round brush up past the jog back from the top of my Quadrafire Insert and the 6" SS pipe run up my masonry chimney. What I remember from last year was it was suggested I get a medium duty, which has smaller diameter (less stiff) bristles. Digging through my tool box I came up with a 6" very stiff brush that had the lower half cut off, it would not go up the chimney. I also found a medium duty that was full, not bristles removed. I couldn't get it past the jog-back bend either. With may poor memory, I now wonder if I somehow forced the cut down heavy duty or the medium duty up the chimney last year. I do remember getting the brush up to what felt like the top... I have 28' of rods and think that reaches the chimney cap.

I am now thinking I may need to try the Sooteater or similar, anything that doesn't have a form that is supposed to fill the diameter of the liner.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/60203/

Is this it?

Ray
 
Here is what you ended up doing last year Jerry.

"Ok, here’s my wrap-up. I consider the chimney cleaned.

I took the heavy duty brush and cut off the bottom 6†or so of rows of bristles. I did this to the heavy duty as I considered it the most likely throwaway of the two brushes I have. This gave me about 3†vertical of bristles, but also a bit short of 6†diameter as I had cut the diameter down in an earlier try before I purchased the medium duty 6†brush. The Heavy duty brush was shorter to begin with, vertical length of bristles. This resized brush had the initial force fit to get the brush over the angle back to get behind the smoke shelf of the fireplace - then it went up with only minor drag - still black particles and a little bit of dust started falling into the fire box. I had a vacuum running so I don’t have a good measure of how much I got out of the chimney, but I’d guess no more than a couple of cups. At the sixth 4’ rod the vertical travel abruptly stopped. I went outside and did a careful estimate of the chimney by counting the rows of bricks. This gave me approximately 24’ for the height, a little more to the rain cap. So, I believe I got to the top and ran into the rain cap or into a cross member in the cap mounting. Using binoculars I could clearly see the screen on the rain cap is clean, no build up.

I estimate the stove saw 3+ cords (maybe 4 cords max) of hardwood with a small (perhaps 10%) of soft wood: white pine and eastern cedar…from my yard cleanups. All wood was well seasoned, at least a full year, more for the softwood. Looking up the chimney from the insert, suppose I could see up about 4-5 feet, I could clearly see the metallic finish (some copper look to it, but is stainless steel), no sign of black soot or creosote - I take it the chimney is clean enough for the coming season. Next cleaning I’ll try cutting the vertical length back on the medium duty brush, which has a full 6†diameter and see how that goes. I may also consider buying the rotary cleaner - sooteater noted by another poster."

Now dang it, order that Sooteater finally.
 
Getting old has "No benefits".
You did one of 3 things,
1.Did it right & have no memory of it.
2.Did it wrong & learned from it
3.Did it wrong & learned then forgot what you learned.

1 everything is normal
2 crated a gray hair
#3 is worst of all, created a gray hair then it fell out :lol:
 
Brother Bart, thanks, that's the story. Now I see why I had trouble remembering, that and being 72 years old. This year even the cut down heavy duty resisted, but it must be I pushed harder the last time I cleaned, i.e., the first time I cleaned. Yep, looking at dates it looks like I burned the winter of 2008/09 and 2009/2010 before I did the first cleaning. You didn't show the date but seem to agree my post was from last year.

Your conclusion seems to encourage the sooteater as an easy out. A brief look says it is done with a drill to drive the cleaning head around at a rapid rate. I guess that means my investment in cleaning poles/rods is now lost. I have to purchase new rods that work with the soot eater.

Yes, I push up from the insert. My roof is too steep for me to climb around on, and even my 32' extension ladder isn't long enough to get me over the top of the external chimney to clean from the top standing on the ladder. Makes me wish I again was in a ranch style home with a slope on the roof I could walk around on. I had one like that a couple of houses back and installed a zero-clearance fireplace in that house, including a triple wall stainless steel chimney. That would have been a "breeze" to clean. I didn't live there long enough to even have to try. I think I burned no more than a half cord of hard wood in that fireplace and was then transferred by my company, back to NJ. I've had two story houses since.
 
Start using a chimney sweep my friend. I installed my own two liners five years ago and still sweep my own chimneys but at 63 I can guarantee you I ain't gonna be on that roof or stuffing rods up a chimney at 72. But that sweep will damn sure have a camera in his hand to take a pic to tell me what I would see if I climbed up there.

I will loan him mine.
 
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