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3650

Minister of Fire
May 8, 2011
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midwest
dog unplugged stove while i was outside getting four tons squared away. came into a house absolutely full of smoke. what a stinkin mess. if you have pets take care.
 
3650 said:
dog unplugged stove while i was outside getting four tons squared away. came into a house absolutely full of smoke. what a stinkin mess. if you have pets take care.

If it smokes you might want to revisit your venting.
 
so you think the stove should have cleared itself of smoke while the fire ran itself out of oxygen? with no power none of the fans are running. why do people connect ups to their stoves if the stove should clear itself naturally? im confused.
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
3650 said:
dog unplugged stove while i was outside getting four tons squared away. came into a house absolutely full of smoke. what a stinkin mess. if you have pets take care.

If it smokes you might want to revisit your venting.

X2

I will never understand why people don't treat venting a pellet stove as they would a wood stove.
 
3650 said:
so you think the stove should have cleared itself of smoke while the fire ran itself out of oxygen? with no power none of the fans are running. why do people connect ups to their stoves if the stove should clear itself naturally? im confused.

It will only clear itself naturally if you provide a vent system that allows it to.

A stove will clear itself if you provide venting that will allow a natural draft to exist. That is why most stove manufacturers recommend a certain amount of vertical venting in the vent run and why some go so far as to include intake flappers that close in the absence of sufficient natural draft.

How about telling us the stove and the actual vent setup you have.
 
its a cumberland 3650. the pipe is simpson duravent kit, teed off the stove exhaust, five foot interior vertical run, 45 out, one foot horizontal out, cap. all sealed with rutland 500 clear at every joint.
 
Is this a sloping setup, in that the T is rotated so the top elbow can be a 45 ? I'm having trouble visualizing that 45 degree getting things horizontal.

I haven't located a 3650 install manual yet but looking at the others they seem to require a 3' minimum vertical run.

I'm going to assume that you are below 2500' altitude, if this is incorrect that pipe might have to be 4".

ETA: BTW, that 3' vertical is required for a normal shut down.
 
bad dog. teach him how to plug it back in.. but your venting should have more rise for natural draft
 
For what its worth, I have ZERO vertical run on my venting. If the power goes out I also get ZERO smoke in my house. Do you have an OAK? In the event there is a loss of power and my stove is running, smoke comes out both the exhaust and the intake, but still, no smoke in the house.

Also, I cut a hole in the floor and have my stove plugged in in the basement. Its a lot cleaner and I don;t have to worry about anyone/thing (wife or dog) unplugging it to charge their cell phone....

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It also allowed me to hide the UPS and surge suppressor and run a dedicated circuit for the stove.
 
AVIVIII,

You also have an air intake flapper that closes upon loss of air flow on that P68.

The OP is actually going to have either to modify his venting, if his stove has a sealed air intake system add an OAK, add an UPS (which still requires you to be around to take action), or live with smoke back.

Well I guess I still need to find the installation manual for his particular stove.

sinnian,

Every time some of us have brought up the fact that these are indeed wood stoves we get flack.

3650,

I'm kind of tied up today and won't be back on until this evening.
 
AVIVIII said:
For what its worth, I have ZERO vertical run on my venting. If the power goes out I also get ZERO smoke in my house. Do you have an OAK? In the event there is a loss of power and my stove is running, smoke comes out both the exhaust and the intake, but still, no smoke in the house.

Also, I cut a hole in the floor and have my stove plugged in in the basement. Its a lot cleaner and I don;t have to worry about anyone/thing (wife or dog) unplugging it to charge their cell phone....

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It also allowed me to hide the UPS and surge suppressor and run a dedicated circuit for the stove.

Is hearth protection required under the vent?
 
I unplug stoves all the time and USUALLY get very little smoke inside the store, building, and/or house. I would look into your venting.

Eric
 
sinnian said:
AVIVIII said:
For what its worth, I have ZERO vertical run on my venting. If the power goes out I also get ZERO smoke in my house.

Looks to me as though you have ZERO horizontal on your venting. (even once outside ??? )

Actually I've got about 4' of horizontal vent....
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
Is this a sloping setup, in that the T is rotated so the top elbow can be a 45 ? I'm having trouble visualizing that 45 degree getting things horizontal.

I haven't located a 3650 install manual yet but looking at the others they seem to require a 3' minimum vertical run.

I'm going to assume that you are below 2500' altitude, if this is incorrect that pipe might have to be 4".

ETA: BTW, that 3' vertical is required for a normal shut down.

sorry dont know why i was saying 45. i have a tee off the exhaust pipe, it 90s up 5' then 90s out the house about 1', then has the cap on it. sorry for the confusion. there is no oak. the smoke was rolling out of the back panel of the stove, the oak connector, seemed like everywhere. i didnt study it too long, just sprang into action and plugged it in. as soon as i did that all the smoke rolling out of the stove stopped.
 
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