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Adkjake

Burning Hunk
Jan 3, 2010
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Adirondack High Peaks
My sister's boyfriend owns about 25 acres on which he lives. He took down a bunch of trees to open up around his house, bring in more light and make use of passive solar. He also had a local logger come in a few years ago and thin out the woods around the property. The logger was supposed to have had a deal to sell to a local mill. But with the crash of the real estate market and very little new home building up this way, the logs have sat. Earlier this fall he told me to come over and take as much as I want. I had not seen his pile, just knew what he told me.

Went over this morning and got the first load. Holy Smokes, guess I'll be busy for awhile! I don't have a truck, just the 5 x 8 utility trailer that I pull with my Outback. So will take a few trips. The pile is a mix of white pine, birch, poplar, oak, maple. Amounts are also in that same order. But, hey, the price is right!

The trailer is rated for 1250 pounds of cargo, I had 17 logs on it. Was guessing that the 8ft logs weighed about 75 to 80 pounds on average. Anyone know of a formula to calculate the estimated weight of a log of given length and diameter?
 

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That is a find! Gonna take you forever with that set up. Cherry pick the good stuff first! You know anyone with a big truck to borrow?
 
Jake with that new stove and all this wood it should be a warm winter for you!!! Buy yourself a couple of lottery tickets and maybe you'll keep stepping in it.
 
Nice score. Hope you have some free time. Since it is on private property it shouldn't be a big deal taking your time to move it. that is a score!
 
I'm retired so do have plenty of time, although Whiteface is planning to open Friday, and we're supposed to get 6 inches of snow by Wed morning. But when I want a break from skiing, I'll know what to do. I started with the smaller more accessable logs that I could buck to 8ft and get on the trailer. Will eventually have to cut stuff into shorter lengths or rounds and load them. Worked alone today, but will draft girlfriend or sister's BF as helpers.

Have been thinking of getting a used pick up, although a 1/2 ton truck wouldn't hold any more than the trailer.Sisters ex does have a small dual wheel dump, may work something out with him.

And yes, it is about 1/2 white pine, the other 1/2 is a mix of birch, poplar, oak, maple. But it is all free BTUs!

I split a bunch of the white pine and some of the poplar with a maul this afternoon. 10 to 12 inch dia. stuff. Most of it split on the first whack.I have use of a 25 ton splitter, so will get then when I get a bigger pile.
 
WOW
THAT'S NOT A SCORE, THAT'S A CAREER :)
That would be worth setting up your cutting & splitting right there, save the mess at home.
Then rent a truck &/or trailer to make a few big hauls.
But then again, being retired, you don't have as much time as yo used to have. :)

You had to feel warm all over when you drove up to the pile the first time. Awesome! :zip:

Be safe when you are out there by yourself, those pile are not as stable as they look.
I got into one 1/4 that size & used a rope & chain to drag the logs off with my truck then cut.
 
At some point I will bring the ATV over and use the winch and a long amount of cable to pull some of the choice logs out. It is a scary big stack. For the first load I took some stuff that was laying around or was easy to pull. There's a smaller pile in the rear.

I'm guessing I can get more on the trailer if I keep the logs in 8 and 4 ft lengths, rather than cutting and splitting on site and then
loading the trailer or truck
 
"Don't mind the mule, load the wagon"
Sure looks like fun though, pull up close & cut away.
"No such thing as "easy firewood", some's just easier than other"
Hope you feel spoiled; cause you are :)
Have fun.
 
I agree with Dave, cut and split right there, or at least cut into the size rounds you want. Id cut as many rounds of the good stuff first, then either rent a trailer and borrow a truck (preferably both at the same time) and spend a day or two bringing all the wood home.
 
Gary_602z said:
Don't worry about the weight the tires will let you know! :lol:

Gary
or the transmisson will, LOL. I don't know if you can go by the tires all the time. I filled my 1 ton trailer with BL on sunday and my tires didn't look too bad but later that night I used the log weight calc and it said I had 3200lbs on that load (eek!)
 
Incredible score! :bug:
 
Great score Jake. Contrary to the others, I'd haul home in log form if possible as it will go faster and then you can cut and spit at your leisure. Can you find a scales in that area to weigh a load? If not, like someone else stated, watch the tires but also know how much pressure you have in them first. I'd run a little high on the pressure but not more than 5 lb over recommendation.
 
That's not a score . . . that's hitting the lottery.
 
Nice score. Like others said, I think you're going to be spending alot of time out there with that small trailer and Subaru set up.
Good luck.
 
I passed on ISeeDeadBTUs suggestion to read the USDA Report on log weights. Like he said, save it for some sleepless night. I did however Google log weight calculator and used this site: http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calculators/calc.pl?calculator=log_weight.

This will be very helpful in calculating the weight of future loads. The formula assumes a moisture content of 70%. I'm thinking this has a huge impact on weight. These logs have been piled up for at least a couple, maybe 3 years. The Woodweb formula calculates the weight of an 8 ft X 8 in dia. white pine log as 119lbs. I took several of these in the 8 and 10 inch dia range on the first load, I was able to lift and carry them comfortable, so they had to weigh quite a bit less.

Still, a good place to start for an estimate.

Looks like the Outback and trailer will be getting a workout in weeks to come. Although hauling is on hold, we had a foot of snow up here last night.
 
Adkjake said:
My sister's boyfriend owns about 25 acres on which he lives. He took down a bunch of trees to open up around his house, bring in more light and make use of passive solar. He also had a local logger come in a few years ago and thin out the woods around the property. The logger was supposed to have had a deal to sell to a local mill. But with the crash of the real estate market and very little new home building up this way, the logs have sat. Earlier this fall he told me to come over and take as much as I want. I had not seen his pile, just knew what he told me.

Went over this morning and got the first load. Holy Smokes, guess I'll be busy for awhile! I don't have a truck, just the 5 x 8 utility trailer that I pull with my Outback. So will take a few trips. The pile is a mix of white pine, birch, poplar, oak, maple. Amounts are also in that same order. But, hey, the price is right!

The trailer is rated for 1250 pounds of cargo, I had 17 logs on it. Was guessing that the 8ft logs weighed about 75 to 80 pounds on average. Anyone know of a formula to calculate the estimated weight of a log of given length and diameter?


Nice score Adkjake, should keep you busy for a little bit.



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There are some btu/dry weight (actually 20% moisture content) of full cord charts on the net, you will need, that will give you a rough tool for deciphering the weight of those logs. Pi x r2 (averaged) x length will give you the cubic inch displacement of each log. To average the radius to square for the formula just take the diameter of each end of each log add together and divide by 2. An eight foot log 10" diameter on one end and 16" on the other end would give you an average 13" diameter. As you know that average radius is half of the average diameter and in this case R would be 6.5". (in a perfect world the taper from one end to the other would be consistent). R2 (42.25) x Pi (3.1416 rounded) = 132.7362 square inches x 96" (the eight foot log) =12,742.329 cu in. A cubic foot is 1728 cubic inches and a full cord is 128 cu ft. Divide the cubic inches of the log by the cubic foot/inches (12,742.329 divided by 1728) =7.3740329 cu ft. Divide the cu ft answer by the cubic ft measurement of a full cord (128) and your answer will be .0576 or roughly 6 percent of the cord and subsequently 6% of the weight of the cord. If the cord is red oak and weighs 3500 lbs you of course multiply 6% times the weight of the cord weight and you will have the log weight. In this instance you would have 210 pounds. Variances will be tied to the normal deviations of the real world and actual moisture content of the wood. On my trailer the axels are rated for 1.75 ton and springs are rated at 1.5 ton so wheh I see the springs starting to straighten out I know I have a load and I just don't want that "one last piece". I might move some relatively dry pine logs but all the rest of them are coming out in pieces. If you have the area at home a logger in need of a job might pick up that load and deliver it to your home and save you a lot of time and balance out your expenses. Best wishes!
 
I burn October to April nonstop and gather and haul all of my wood in my 4 cylinder BMW and a 4 by 8 trailer. I welded some extra angle iron on here and there to the trailer and added about 2 foot high wooden sides. One load is good for two weeks of burning. It works for me and I get over 30 mpg commuting to work! Americans are used to their trucks but much of the world gets by on cars doing the same (although somewhat smaller) jobs.
I remember seeing a Mercedes E class towing a horse trailer in Germany once...
 
That's an amazing score! It would be great if you could hire tri-axle to haul it for you..

Ray
 
as an approximation, you can use this table http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_wood.htm, assume log is even length, R is the radius (half the diameter) volume is 3.14 R squared x L , if you measure in inches, then use a web calculator to convert from cubic inches to cubic meters. This will get you in the ballpark but the moisture content will add to that.
 
raybonz said:
That's an amazing score! It would be great if you could hire tri-axle to haul it for you..

Ray


I'd look into what a log truck would charge to deliver it to our house.
 
Thanks to Cave2K and kalevi for the math lessons, but that stuff makes my head hurt. I was never a math whiz, much less much of a math student. I'll stick with the WoodWeb link calculator. I checked out a few other online calculators and tables, and they're all in the same pew as far as results go.

And, since I have the time and it seems to work well for me, I'll go with the haul 1300lbs of 8 foot logs or big rounds with the Outback and the trailer to home. I have the room to unload them, pile them up, buck and split at my leisure. I just can't see any reason to hire a hauler or rent a truck to do it for me.

I'll keep a good eye on the trailer, the bearings and the wheels.
 
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