read about it...tried it....like it, also lots of pics.

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clarence olson

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Oct 31, 2011
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i read about the cigar burn, so i decided to try it out. i have loaded the stove 2-3 splits n/s and 2-3 splits e/w. which has worked well but there has been sometimes where i can not fit in the splits on top e/w so only 3-4 splits in the stove. now with all n/s i load as many splits as i can, and even split the split to make it fit. so rake all coals forward or as much as possible, need to buy welding glove. right hand has lost all the hair on it. so rake coals forward, load in the wood, leave door open a crack, shut door, go 3/4 open, 1/2 open. 30 minutes later. by that time i close the air all the way and just barely tap the lever back over so prolly 10% open and the stove cruises at 550-600 for about 3-4 hrs. ends burn first and burns front to back and the secondaries really like this set up. usually at the end of the 3-4 hours i open air back to 3/4 open and then the blue flames start for about another 1hr or so. then start all over again. can not remember who posted about the cigar burn, but thanks to all who have.
i can stretch another 1hr to 2hr out of a load of wood.
burn on.
 

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Nice fire shots. I usually try to burn down the coal bed a bit further by raking the bulk of it to the front of the stove, then opening up the air. That helps extend the burn time too.
 
more pics and i will try that, rake coals forward bunch them up and try some more air, also i think this will help in burning down into more ash for some easy removal of the ash and keeping enough coals for next time.
 

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Brother Bart posted about the cigar burns, and yes it works great for me too. I had allways spread the coals out evenly. And it works with e/w loads also just load biggest splits or rounds in back, to smaller in front and one on top of coals.
 
Good pics.
 
The old cigar burn, first time I read about that was when they started putting baffles in wood burners, I guess 30 to 40 years ago.
 
oldspark said:
The old cigar burn, first time I read about that was when they started putting baffles in wood burners, I guess 30 to 40 years ago.
ummm at that long ago i was not even a thought to my parents yet.
 
Awesome shots! The cigar burn looks like it's really working for you.
 
I could not find it in the posts, what kind of wood is that?
 
oldspark said:
I could not find it in the posts, what kind of wood is that?

so i have a friend that works for the city parks and recreation, when the department cuts down a tree, he calls me and i go pick it up. the city yard is a few blocks from where i work and it is all cut to 14-16 inch lengths. so bring the truck to work, on the way home pick up a load and take home, but here is the kicker, it is usually all cottonwood. i do have some elm and sycamore, but this is for next year. the cottonwood was split this year in march. the city employees always pick the good stuff and leave the cottonwood. it is cut to length and free. that is what i tell myself when i am loading the truck.
 
Wow-thats a good burn for cottonwood, wait till you get the good stuff.
 
Nice pics of the burning cycle from start to finish on a reload. Sounds like you have the buring cycle worked out in the Timberwolf.

I would also recommend burning the coals down a little further before reloading.

Cheers.
 
with the coals, when i reload stove is at 200-250 temp. with raking the coals forward and letting burn more. at what temp do i reload. i know that now when i reload, wood takes right off and no waiting. should i let the temp drop more? the stove is still good and hot and i know if i rake coals forward and wait more, more heat less fuel and longer time between reloads, i like that. i also think with cottonwood the stuff takes fire real easy anyways. blower should be here in first week of Dec. can not wait to see the difference. thanks for all the replies.
 
I've tried the cigar burn, but seems like the whole load is on fire within 30 min to an hour, not burning from front to back. But, without the coals under the rear section of the load, perhaps it is the outgassing from front to back that is key - sound right? Cheers!
 
I've noticed too, that if I don't get all the coals forward, the back of the splits will burn just as well as the front and I'll have a burn that doesn't last as long.
It's also been suggested to pull the coals forward, then put a small split on the coals e/w with full air to help burn down the coals and provide a bit of heat, longer.
Seems to work well.
 
So a cigar burn is all splits N/S. New wood burner term, I like it.
"Live & learn", just remembering now is tougher
Ops manual for my stove recommended N/S.

Great pictures, I could feel the heat :)
 
bogydave said:
So a cigar burn is all splits N/S. New wood burner term, I like it.
"Live & learn", just remembering now is tougher
Ops manual for my stove recommended N/S.

Great pictures, I could feel the heat :)


No doesn't matter N/S or E/W coals all the way to front, nocoals under logs in back, so the burn will be stronger in front and burn to the back, producing more gas for secondaires.
 
i did try the e/w loading, stove did not really respond to it, like it does with n/s. and yep all the coals need to be front of stove, also found that out with a thermo moment.wood all flames,secondaries hell dancing, stove 700, open window, fan on high towards stove, garage door open at top of stairs another box fan pushing air down stairs. finally opened stove door and let just burn. yep can not wait to get some good wood. i have burned some cherry and it has done better. i would love to load it full of hard wood and let her eat. i would like the fact of less loading, or less fuel for better burn. seems like i am going through 12-15 splits of cottonwood in the day. would like to make it less.
 
There is a difference. With the N/S configurations, which actually is what is called the cigar burn, you are burning the gases and the wood as the fire moves back through the load. With E/W you are literally baking the gases and volatiles out of the splits behind the sacrificial split in the front and burning them. With E/W you will notice that most of the burn is the gases coming out of the ends of the splits.
 
man i have no idea how u guys load ur stove full all the time..the only time i can even think about loading it full is when we are leaving and gonna be gone for a while..or when we are about to go to bed for the night.....any other time its just small hot fires..if i loaded it up full while we were sitting around the house....man i would melt..
 
steeltowninwv said:
man i have no idea how u guys load ur stove full all the time..the only time i can even think about loading it full is when we are leaving and gonna be gone for a while..or when we are about to go to bed for the night.....any other time its just small hot fires..if i loaded it up full while we were sitting around the house....man i would melt..

Location, location, location. (-6 last night got up to 7 today)
& some heat control of the stove.
 
Doesnt being manufactured in 1981 give it a rather large box Steeltown?
 
BrotherBart said:
There is a difference. With the N/S configurations, which actually is what is called the cigar burn, you are burning the gases and the wood as the fire moves back through the load. With E/W you are literally baking the gases and volatiles out of the splits behind the sacrificial split in the front and burning them. With E/W you will notice that most of the burn is the gases coming out of the ends of the splits.


The Virgin has to be sacrificed either way and it really works for me E/W Cigar in a couple of years my Old wore out A$$ will have splits to burn N/ S or any other way Anyway


heck with It Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
 
loco it does have a large firebox..not sure on cubic feet ..but i can stuff alot in her..and its a good thing cause she likes to eat it
 
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