Tiny home, shallow pockets, why not Vogelzang?

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I can offer this. I had one, welds werent the prettiest, not the thickest steel, mine was small so that hurt it too.

For the short time, one season, it held up well and when pushed would make it comfy.

I upgraded because its too much of a hastle to fiddle with it all the time. To boot my biggest complaint are the btu numbers being very inflated in my opinion.

There are some cheaper but good steel stoves to be had. Go for nice firebox size and thicker steel if you do.

Or like me and find them used.

Good luck.
 
Hi Eileen, looks like we have more in common then just burning wood. Several of our horses are rescues we have adopted and we teach horsemanship :).
Yes, 500 square feet, 18 x 30 and take off 40 sf for the recessed exterior porch. I wouldn't know how to act in a 432 sf room, lol.
Regarding CTC, if I remember right, we had 18" on the back corners with the other stove which was a very large box type. I realize that with a different shaped stove we will need to especially watch the side clearances.
 
Debi, what is your budget for this project? Makes it easier for us to find something specific.

EDIT: You mention this "other stove". What was it? How did it perform? Can you describe the chimney setup?
 
HotCoals said:
How can it be just 500sq.ft.?
Your talking 25x20...with a hall in the middle?
You sure it's just 500 sq.ft?
My family room alone is 432 sq.ft...and it's not that big.

A wall in the middle. My first house was 650 ft2, 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, bath, small utility room.
 
Not and expert by any strech but I can give you my recommendation after installing an insert with a 1.8 cuft fire box. Anthing smaller than that regardless of rating would be a pain. 1.8 cuft does a good job of heating about 1000 sqft of living space and I can pull the heat upstairs and keep the attic room comfortable (another 400 sqft). Not enough capicity to get an 8 hr burn, maybe 5-6 if I use large chunk of oak or maple. But it is kind of a pain to load and doesn't hold a lot of wood. I would think anything smaller would be a real pain even if it would heat the house. Here are a couple of stoves that may fit the budget. Do you already have pipe installed? I think it may be hard to stay at 1k if you need pipe and are having it installed. I got mine used for $250 but by the time I bought pipe and a few other accesories I was pretty near a grand. Here are a few that may fit the bill. I think they are made by Napolean and look like a good stove.


http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Wood-Stove-and-Accessories/Wood-Stoves-Small-under-1500-sqft

http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Wood-...erwolf-2200-Economizer-EPA-Wood-Burning-Stove
 
+1 for a catalytic stove for longer burns from a small box. Not very many cat stoves are made, and none are < $1k new, but it's worth spending the $, IMO. You know how you sometimes shut the draft on your old stove when you want less heat/longer burn? Well, the EPA doesn't allow that on new stoves, because it creates a dirty burn. . .unless a catalyst is involved. So, if you want a long burn, you need to burn a big load of wood in a big stove, but that'd overheat your space. . .hence the recommendations for a small cat stove. Meow. :)
 
Kingquad - the chimney is a straight up pipe. I had single walled to triple walled but am going with double walled interior to insulated double walled exterior and adding three feet outside for better draft. Since a huge old tree was taken down out front we have had some draft issues with the old stove.
rwhite - The stove was an ancient Fischer box stove that was medium sized, and bigger then what our sf needed. Our $1000 hopeful budget is for the stove only, not including pipes and installation, which we have actually been quoted $1500 so far.
 
Well, an Alderlea T4 would cost around $1900, a Woodstock Keystone about $1800, so they may be out of reach. If so, I would focus on the less expensive PE Vista stove for about $1200, A True North T19 with side shields may be a bit under $1K, and also look at the Drolet Millenia for about $1100.

As some have suggested there is also the Englander 13NC at $788 delivered to your nearest loading dock. This is a fine, small, US made stove that would work for you providing that your hearth is adequate and your clearances work out: http://www.overstockstoves.com/50epacenowos.html The side clearances can be reduced a bit with optional side shields. The hearth requirement is R=2.0. Here's a link to the manual:

http://www.englanderstove.com/manuals/13-NC.pdf
 
BeGreen said:
Well, an Alderlea T4 would cost around $1900, a Woodstock Keystone about $1800, so they may be out of reach. If so, I would focus on the less expensive PE Vista stove for about $1200, A True North T19 with side shields may be a bit under $1K, and also look at the Drolet Millenia for about $1100.

As some have suggested there is also the Englander 13NC at $788 delivered to your nearest loading dock. This is a fine, small, made in USA stove that would work for you providing that your hearth is adequate and your clearances work out: http://www.overstockstoves.com/50epacenowos.html The side clearances can be reduced a bit with optional side shields. The hearth requirement is R=2.0. Here's a link to the manual:

http://www.englanderstove.com/manuals/13-NC.pdf

The 13 would be an excellent choice, and a really good value.

-SF
 
what about a jotul f100 nordic
i heat my house with it no problem and it 700 sqft.
works very well and not to expensive either.
i have been able to get 7 hour burn times when stuffed full over night.
6 is pretty easy to do. but with pine that could be hard to do i dont know.
check out the jotul!
 
hi debi welcome to the forum
ive got a us stove co country hearth 2000 wood stove thats been good last year and so far this year i got it at tractor supply here in indiana for $545 not sure what rural stores you have in wyo but its a bargin here on my 1400 ft house , they have a smaller version that heats 1000 sq ft for $300 ish might be something to look at
 
All of you people here are fantastic, and I am very grateful for your help!
tuco1963 - I just looked at that stove on the Home Depot website and wondered about it. Noticed it while checking out the Englander.
There are so many different features, pros, cons etc out there on wood stoves that it's a bit mind boggling but I am wading through and persevering! That's part of why I value this forum so much!
Hope to check out the US Stoves, Englanders and others you all have suggested in the next day or two in person. Living where we do is awesome but everything is at least an hour or two drive away, with selection and brands somewhat limited. I want to actually see some of these stoves myself, not just online, so hope to narrow the selection down a bit with some road trips.
 
I don't do pitches here very often, but can only talk from personal experience. Were it me being out away from a stove shop I would do what I did. Buy an Englander stove. In your case the 13-NC. I have the 30-NC. Help is only a toll free call away from them and warranty parts land on your porch via UPS. Fast.

I agree with Mike that the Vogelzang EPA certified stoves will do the job for ya. I just don't have any experience with their service like I do with England's Stove Works. But I can guarantee you that unless VZ puts a tech in your spare bedroom the service can't get better.
 
Englander 13-NC rocks. I also think the EPA stoves (other than vogelzang) at the big box stores are a great deal and have had favorable reviews.
 
Okay, I'm talked out of a Vogelzang (you guys did that quite a few posts back and then I went to look at them and it was a no) and pretty much talked into an Englander. Thank you again so very, very much. Will let you know how things turn out as we sure hope to have everything a done deal within a week or so. God bless you all :)
 
Good move Debi, best of luck and success. Please stay around and let us know how it works out for you. And if possible, take some pictures of the transformation. We love pictures here.
 
OMG !! She has paints :)

:)
 
@ Eileen - :) along with various other varieties both great and small, with several longears thrown in for good measure! Today is Englander stove shopping day! Rather excited.
 
Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle said:
OMG !! She has paints :)

:)

LOL. When I first read this I saw - OMG she has pants. That stopped me for a moment.
 
BeGreen said:
Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle said:
OMG !! She has paints :)

:)

LOL. When I first read this I saw - OMG she has pants. That stopped me for a moment.

Laughing.. I hope so, other wise the rides would be uncomfortable :)
 
Just came back from a nice walk and said hello to a pair of nice palomino paints.
 
Awesome. They're my favs, obviously :)

I got a hankering for a mini long ears, how ever. Some day :)
 
you guys crack me up!
Our longears are guardians for the minis, and definitely entertainment for us.
 
FYI, if you click on a thread that has "chaps" in the title, it ain't gonna be what you think it is !!!!
 
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