Help...Drolet eco 45 not igniting

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desman

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Nov 28, 2011
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I installed a new igniter in my stove yesterday and now I have a problem. The burn pot fills up but will not catch on fire. I checked the igniter and its cherry red and when I empty the pot the back of the pot is warm. I've emptied and went through 2 complete cycles to no avail. Is there supposed to be some sort of gasket/seal at back of burn pot facing igniter? I have looked at the parts list for the eco-45 and do not see such an item, however there is one listed for the eco-35. I'm at a loss. Havent been in house too long and the old igniter gave out because it was over cycling. The thermostat was hooked up on the adjacent wall directly in front of stove. I have since moved it off to the side, 15ft away.

Anyone shed some light on this?

Thnx
 
I'm assuming that the old ignitor worked at lighting the stove, correct?

Is there some room to adjust the ignitor inward more toward the burnpot?

If the ignitor is inside a "tube", are you sure it's completely clear of ash/pellets, etc?
 
imacman said:
I'm assuming that the old ignitor worked at lighting the stove, correct?

Is there some room to adjust the ignitor inward more toward the burnpot?

If the ignitor is inside a "tube", are you sure it's completely clear of ash/pellets, etc?

The old igniter konked out at the end of last winter. I tightened the new nut as tight as it would go, no more room to get it closer. The tube is cleared of any obstructions.
 
imacman said:
Is it a Drolet factory replacement ignitor?

Yes it is and when I check it through side of stove, it is cherry red and back of pot gets warm but that is the extent. I'm baffled...
 
not sure about the Drolet 45, but the other brands SBI makes have a little round gasket right on the back of the firepot, mates up with the tub around the ignitor. Check the back of your fire pot and see if there is a round area where a small gasket would fit.
 
Is the combustion blower running? On most pellet stoves, the combustion blower pulls air around the ignitor and the super heated air gets directed onto the pellets.
 
pyro68 said:
not sure about the Drolet 45, but the other brands SBI makes have a little round gasket right on the back of the firepot, mates up with the tub around the ignitor. Check the back of your fire pot and see if there is a round area where a small gasket would fit.

There is a small round area at the back of the burn pot. I have looked at the replacement parts list for the 45 and do not see a replacement gasket but do see one for the 35. I ran the stove all last winter with no gasket however.

Thnx for the help everyone...
 
imacman said:
Is the combustion blower running? On most pellet stoves, the combustion blower pulls air around the ignitor and the super heated air gets directed onto the pellets.

During a 15minute cycle the blowers kick in briefly towards the end. It then stops, the auger stops feeding pellets and thats it. I have fiddled with the air intake, leaning more toward the closed to quarter open position as the manual states...
 
Does the control panel show any error codes? If not, I'm at a loss for anything to try.
 
imacman said:
Does the control panel show any error codes? If not, I'm at a loss for anything to try.

It showed the "I" or "L" error last winter when the igniter quit. When I first fired it up this year, I immediately got a "P" error for a blocked hose. It was common i got the same error last year. Cleared hose and it never came back. Manual says that it could take up to 30 mins to ignite but that doesn't seem right, especially if it took that long each and every time.
 
desman said:
imacman said:
Is the combustion blower running? On most pellet stoves, the combustion blower pulls air around the ignitor and the super heated air gets directed onto the pellets.

During a 15minute cycle the blowers kick in briefly towards the end. It then stops, the auger stops feeding pellets and thats it. I have fiddled with the air intake, leaning more toward the closed to quarter open position as the manual states...

Open the damper all the way. See if that works. Closed to 1/4 is restricting the air from going through the pot.

The combustion blower should kick on as soon as you turn the stove on (call for heat) and run continuously. (Until the POF switch senses no fire and shuts down).
 
DexterDay said:
desman said:
imacman said:
Is the combustion blower running? On most pellet stoves, the combustion blower pulls air around the ignitor and the super heated air gets directed onto the pellets.

During a 15minute cycle the blowers kick in briefly towards the end. It then stops, the auger stops feeding pellets and thats it. I have fiddled with the air intake, leaning more toward the closed to quarter open position as the manual states...

Open the damper all the way. See if that works. Closed to 1/4 is restricting the air from going through the pot.

The combustion blower should kick on as soon as you turn the stove on (call for heat) and run continuously. (Until the POF switch senses no fire and shuts down).

Will try the damper. I apologize about the blower. It does kick on when I start the stove. 10mins or so into cycle, the blower seems to kick up a notch and you can hear the blower make a different blowing sound. Hard to explain, almost like a vacuum sound...
 
This is a dumb guy mistake I have made....maybe its your lucky day also. The burn pot is very fussy where it fits into the metal box and plunking it down sometimes"feels right", but the ignitor hole doesn't quite line up. Take the time and give it a good look with a flashlight.
 
There is a gasket kit available for the ECO45. Part # AC09189. You can order it from your dealer. As for the air setting...turn it all the way down..then just open it about 1/4". This sets up a bit of a negative pressure in the firebox and pulls more het in through the ignitor. It also puuls more air in through the airwas whick will keep your glass cleaner. Too much air..and you'll have trouble igniting..and get "E" codes.
 
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Got it working yesterday. Feels good to not be able to see my breath in the basement now at night when I'm watching tv! Pretty sure it was an airflow issue although I did fiddle with the positioning of the burn pot.

Thnx again, look forward to reading the many insightful threads around here!
 
Please make sure that you pick up the "O" ring gaskets as "Heater Helper" mentioned as there needs to be a tighter seal made around the igniter tube than just metal on metal. The air adjuster you may need to work with ..yes it does affect the ignition but also the volume of air being delivered to the base of the burn pot for combustion. Check to see that the flame is not dark at the the tips as this will be a key indicator that you will have a dirty glass and a more dirty combustion. The opposite of this would be to have the tips avery bright yellow nearly white as this will casue the pellets to burn more quickly and more heat will exhaust rather than linger to heat those heat exchanger tubes.
 
pete324rocket said:
This is a dumb guy mistake I have made....maybe its your lucky day also. The burn pot is very fussy where it fits into the metal box and plunking it down sometimes"feels right", but the ignitor hole doesn't quite line up. Take the time and give it a good look with a flashlight.
I have done the same thing you would swear that the pot was in right but it is not and all it takes is a slight move to fix it.The gasket also falls out very easily so keep an eye on that.They actually sent some with the stove when I bought it.
 
I do not have the same stove as you, but, a service tech from englandern that is on this site will state that the ingniter module should be spaced back about 1/8" could be the same for you.
 
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