Just got back from Lowe's and picked up a ton of Greene Team pellets. Price, 274.50 per ton. Got my 10% military discount, so brought it down some, but last month the same ton was under $200.00. As the price of oil, so goes the pellets.
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johnnycomelately
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Old Mount Vernon.oldmountvernon said:
What information, if any do you rely on to conclude that the $274/ton price is a result of corporate greed. Hey, I like a good deal just as much as the next guy and I try to be thrifty when I can. But for you to conclude that $274 is a result of corporate greed seems to be a hasty generalization at best. Please tell me, if you can:
1. How much did this greedy corporation pay for the Green Team pellets?
2. What is a fair Gross margin for this greedy corporation to make on a ton of their pellets?
3. How is it relevant that there was a Lowe's over 500 miles away that had Green Team pellets for $152/ton. And if it is true, is there any other possible explanation in the world why a competitor may be more expensive than another for reasons OTHER than "Corporate Greed" Or are we to conclude that any time one store's price differs from another, it is because someone is being greedy? Lowe's and Home depot have traditionally had the cheapest price around they are constantly fighting out their "price wars" to the point where we have heard many times on this forum that they are selling at or even below cost. This doesn't fit the mold of corporate greed that you are trying to cast! You mean, as soon as they up their prices to be more reflective of what the rest of the market sells pellets for, they are acting out of greed?
Seriously, I am not trying to pick a fight here, but I am interested in what the criteria is that you use to determine your publicly calling out of a corporation on what seems to be limited information.
I assume that you have conclusve answers for questions 1,2 and 3. Otherwise you would not have made such harsh accusations. Right?
kinsmanstoves
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johnnycomelately
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I agree with you that if they misrepresent the "truth of labeling", that is a bad business practice and unethical. But, in a very "Bill Cinton-esque" way, you have diverted from and ducked the original questions. I think that its safe to say, your silence speaks volumes in terms of your ability to back up what you said. Again, I am not saying you are wrong. It just seems like there is no evidence to support what you say. In any event, I wish you the happiest of holidays.oldmountvernon said:
johnnycomelately said:
You have to be the "funniest" poster on here. Always look forward to reading the rather humorous pots you make.....
This post may not be funny. But it is true. Pellets in other areas are marked much higher than in my area. Although I am not in the Okies, Energex, Spruce Pointe area. Somersets are a good pellet around me (locally) and in some areas fetch $260. But at the Lowes the oldmountvernon spoke of, they are $152 a ton. Still a little drive for me. But well worth it. So I see your point.
Some locales are subject to more Supply and Demand prices. Those areas must price accordingly. Anyways. Carry on.... Keep the funny posts coming. Love the Avatar too. Kills me everytime I see it.
mepellet
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johnnycomelately
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Its just that some people think that if you are not the dirt cheapest, youre screwing people. I own a business. And in my business I am not the cheapest, nor am I the most expensive. I will land somewhere in the middle. But people are willing to pay for the great service that I offer. Thats it. I am not going to put in the efforts of working 60 hrs./week and going above and beyond my competition, only to sell at the same price as others. I mean, If my extra efforts can earn an extra dollar at the end of the day, then hooray for me. That's the American way and that's what the Great American Dream is based on, being rewarded for your efforts. And if you don't like that, well then hey.....no hard feelings. Look at all of those dirty hippies in Zuccotti Park. Those people do not like the American Way (as it stands) and they are willing to protest for change. I dont like them and I don't agree with them, but I admire and respect the hell out of them for not what they are doing, but how they are going about it. They are not sitting back and whining, they are engaging in a proactive form of change. That is Old Mount Vernon's right as well. But to blindly and wrongfully accuse is not a right of his if it causes someone or some company wrongly and unjust harm. Then its called slander.DexterDay said:
johnnycomelately
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Ahhhhh, a traderoldmountvernon said:johnnycomelately said:
not ducking at all. im just not going to get into a pissing match about it. And frankly dont feel like typingAs i have 1 hour left to trade before the bell and must close all positions before then. I agree with you also about price wars i have said in previous posts i think they sell at a loss at times But my comment reflect the current price i never saw them as low as 152 is my point, maybe just trying to blow them out in need of room for Xmas trees or christmas items no idea
You "Greedy One percenter"
Enjoy your afternoon and let me please note that I do feel as you are definately an asset to the comunity. You and I just have a difference of opinion. That doesn't make you a bad guy.......Just makes you wrong
kilbury
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The box stores will sell certain items at a loss, that's why it's called a loss leader, because they take a loss to lead you in the door. I was selling well below (or at least had them) them last spring and nobody even wanted to think about buying ahead (and they are in inventory when they are purchased). Now and in the last couple months that bLowes and Home De-pot are beating the crap out of me on price, everyone wants to complain my prices are too high. Weelllll, I don't sell at a loss, if I do I won't be here to service all of those stoves that "THE BOX" sells that they don't service! Now you guys that service your own don't get your panties all wadded up cause there are a lot of people still out there that aren't capable or want to service their own. My point is they get you in the door and your sure to see this or that, that you might as well buy because your here getting pellets anyway. Guess what that certain thing you might as well get can be found at your local small business possibly at a better price!
johnnycomelately
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Yes, but the fact that one manufacturer is closer to a store than another shall have in no way, no how, any effect on the retail price of a product. Everyone knows that geography and trucking have nothing to do with prices of pellets, and the only factor that determines the retail price of pellets is......Ready?......
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"Corporate Greed"
!!Yaaaaahhhhhooooooooooooooooooooo!
Rokal
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Pellet prices at my local Home Depot have gone wild!
Here is the price history for the same American Wood Fiber pellets
10/10/2011 - $3.97 per bag or $198.50 per ton
11/11/2011 - $4.48 per bag or $224.00 per ton
11/28/2011 - $5.47 per bag or $273.50 per ton
That is over a 35% increase in less than 2 months. I can't see how that can justify that much of a price increase. Are they passing along supplier rate hikes, capitalizing on an increased demand, or are they just being greedy? ;-)
Here is the price history for the same American Wood Fiber pellets
10/10/2011 - $3.97 per bag or $198.50 per ton
11/11/2011 - $4.48 per bag or $224.00 per ton
11/28/2011 - $5.47 per bag or $273.50 per ton
That is over a 35% increase in less than 2 months. I can't see how that can justify that much of a price increase. Are they passing along supplier rate hikes, capitalizing on an increased demand, or are they just being greedy? ;-)
vettechick
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John97
Feeling the Heat
Lowes near me had Presto Logs for $3.97/bag ($198.50/ton) the other day.
I do find the regional price variations interesting, to say the least.
I do find the regional price variations interesting, to say the least.
Harman Lover 007
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76brian
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BillM2
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Prices around the Hudson Valley have been up more than last year's. But with this warm weather (9th warmest November on record) we've been having, perhaps that'll help drive down the prices a bit. $225 per ton is about the average. And I've noticed not the hotter brands being stocked now at Blowes and Home Despot.
But as the old saying goes, it's only worth what someone will pay for it.
But as the old saying goes, it's only worth what someone will pay for it.
Vinelife
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