Happily burning and a question about creosote formation

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newwoodinsert

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Sep 28, 2011
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Rochester, NY
Hi all!

I know, I know, I need pictures, and I will get some someday, but the install is more functional than fashionable, and I'm a little afraid of the criticism. ;) Anyway, we've been burning for almost a month now, and I am in love. LOL!

We've had a VERY mild stretch of weather in the Rochester, NY, area, but that is coming to an end. There are some days we had one fire, others we had none, and others we had 2. We are just now entering what I think will be more constant burning.

I've followed as much of the advice from you guys here as I could. I work to burn as hot as is safe. I work to not have smoke or smouldering. I'm learning a lot, and I'm learning quickly. Our wood is not the best, but I can now start a fire in a cold stove and get it up to 300* in about 40 minutes. Once I get it to 300, it is quite easy to get it to 500-670 and keep it there. I try to maintain a temp right around there, though if the house is cold, I like to get it up to 700* or so. I had my first experience yesterday of what I think was over-firing. It was about 810,and some of the rods inside started to glow. I shut the damper as completely as the stove allows (I usually keep the damper about 1/2-3/4 closed), and the temp moderated quite quickly, and the glowing stopped. It was a good lesson for me.

We have a Lopi Revere insert, but it is almost functioning as a hearth stove b/c of the size of our hearth area. We do not yet have the blower. We'll probably get it next year. But even without the blower, the room with the stove is 75* on average. It is a very open floor plan for the living area of the house (we haven't figured out how to get the heat around the L-shaped hallway to the bedrooms yet). The temps farthest from the stove range from 64-69, depending on outside temps, how long we've had the fans running, etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing how everything works once the cold really settles in. I'm also curious how much wood we'll use. We have 10fc. Planning to buy more in the spring and get a season ahead, sooner rather than later.

We do have some creosote concerns. We did our first chimney sweep last weekend (We have a 6" liner in an internal masonry chimney. The liner is double-walled and wrapped with insulation). We got out 1/2 a mason jar of the powdery flakes. My main concern is the top of the chimney, the cap area, appears to have the shiney creosote on it, so I need to figure that out. I am burning as hot as I can, so I'm not sure what to do about what is forming up there. Any tips?

I really, really, REALLY love the stove/insert and am SO HAPPY we did it. It is like a miracle to me. LOL!
 
The cap will always get dirty first as will the top of the chimney because that is where it is the coolest.

So 1/2 mason jar; no big problem.....except that is a lot for this early in the season. We burned for 3 years to get about a cup of soot!

Number one key and your post speaks well of it. You need dry wood and do not have it. For sure you would not need 40 minutes to get to 300 degrees if you had good fuel. You also speak of buying wood next spring for next winter. Why do you not consider buying that wood right now? That way you would be much, much better off as the wood will have more time to dry. Also, stack the wood in the windiest spot you have. Keep it off the ground and make sure you stack it so the wind hits the side of the pile. Stack in single rows if possible and make sure it is not against a wall or fence; air circulation is the key here. If you must cover the wood, cover only the top of the stack and do not be concerned with the sides or ends. If you cover them, the wood won't dry. Don't worry about the rain hitting the sides of the stacks either. Wood is not a sponge.

If you are buying oak, then give yourself even more time for that wood to dry. It is one of the best woods but one of the worst for giving up it's moisture. Here, we leave it in the stack for 3 years before attempting to burn it.

Good luck, and welcome to the forum.
 
I'll bet most of that creosote is forming at the beginning of your burn. Room temp to 300º in 40 minutes is a long time at sub-prime burn temps. I'd get some real dry wood to get that box up to temp before you go throwing the iffy stuff on top.
 
Sounds like you'll be in pretty good shape if you have 10 facecords and you burn casually - if you go for 24/7 burning you may be a bit short. Once you get some seasoned wood that Lopi will really keep you toasty and it will give you better burns once you re-learn how it runs on dry stuff.

I found that the blower really helps to move the warm air around with an insert. Your room temps don't sound bad given your layout.

Stay warm and welcome to the forum!
 
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