Good-bye smoke flap, helllllooooooo smoke hood.

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Gasifier

Gasifier

Minister of Fire
Apr 25, 2011
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St. Lawrence River Valley, N.Y.
Well I broke down and bought the smoke hood from AHS. I thought more and more about it and decided that was the best thing to do. As I slowly get deeper into my wood pile I will get to the longer splits. I stacked my most recently cut stuff in the back, then a pretty large portion of the winter supply, which was the next cut, then the driest stuff last. I am working through the driest stuff and that should last me through December, maybe into the middle of January. Then the longest splits, 23" stuff will be the supply through the coldest part of the winter. The smoke flap was okay when using shorter splits. But with the longer splits I can see where it would be a pain if you wanted to load chamber up. Now everything is taken care of, the flap will not be in the way anymore, and the smoke will be gone out the back wall of the house. It is all vented, now I just have to wire up an outlet for it. And find a little side job to make $350 smackers, wife didn't want me to spend the money on it. ;-P
 

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The only guy I personally know around here with a gasser has a WG, and he sprung for the hood.

I think you'll be happy with it - turn it on a few seconds before you open the door to let it spool up, and let it run a few seconds after you close the door to clear the pipe and you'll be golden. Even my micky-moused hood made a huge improvement.
 
Now you can cut your wood at 26" and really stuff it! It's been kinda warm here and I'm still on my load that I put in about 21 hrs ago! She keeps on lighting back up.
 
maple1 said:
The only guy I personally know around here with a gasser has a WG, and he sprung for the hood.I think you'll be happy with it - turn it on a few seconds before you open the door to let it spool up, and let it run a few seconds after you close the door to clear the pipe and you'll be golden. Even my micky-moused hood made a huge improvement.
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Yep, 711mhw recommended it highly. I am impressed so far. The fan is powerful enough for the short distance I was going. I ended up going about 10', twice what I thought I was going to. Had to because of the outlet of the fan and some stuff in the way. Anywho, I looked out my window at the vent on the outside after I had plugged the fan into an extension cord and turned it on. It had the flapper pegged wide open, as far as it would go. Nice. Thanks for the recommendation 711, the factory hood looks good as well. Now I need to get that boiler room finished off. That will come when the nasty weather is keeping me inside. Rained most of the night last night and today. I was bumming out not being able to add to next years wood pile on my day off. Then the smoke hood came on the delivery truck! :ahhh: Thanks AHS, that was fast!
 
711mhw said:
Now you can cut your wood at 26" and really stuff it! It's been kinda warm here and I'm still on my load that I put in about 21 hrs ago! She keeps on lighting back up.
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:lol: My neighbors home made splitter has a maximum log length of 23 1/2"! That will be my maximum length of bucking wood. I have been thinking of getting my own splitter. The last time I borrowed it a few weeks ago I told them I was looking around at some used ones so I would not have to keep borrowing theirs. She looked at me like I was crazy and said why would you do that? That splitter just sits there 11 months out of the year and you are welcome to it anytime you want. Nice people. Thanks again 711. I do appreciate it.
 
MEHEAT said:
Gasifier, Can you send me the link for that fan you have mounted to your hood.Thanks.
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Here is a link to Grainger. Looks like $157. Not a bad price. But you will have some work to do after that. There is a few things AHS did as far as hooking it up with ducting and power switch, etc. The more I look at it, it was worth it to get it from them. All I had to do was run a 5" pipe for the exhaust, and I will have to wire in an outlet where I want it. What kind of boiler or furnace are you running? Are you going to fabricate something up?

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-PSC-Blower-1TDR7
 
Thanks, Gasifier, I can fabricate whatever I need for duct work. Right now a have a 10" x 24" duct above my outdoor boiler door which I have under an open shed roof. I have 6" stove pipe attached to it that goes out the side of the shed and outside. I tried an inline 6" fan from Lowes but it has plastic fins and they quickly melted. Yours is rated for 104 degrees, and I would be a little concerned the smoke from the unit might be hotter than that. Is there a reason you laid the fan on it's side?
 
I also have this purchase on the "list", probably for next year. I have learned how to load her up with minimal(if any) smoke escape but the Mrs hasn't, so this will put an end to stray smoke when she gets the urge to open the door when it's not yet down to coals :)
Let us know how you like it when opening the door to load and not yet down to coals as this is the time when we get the most smoke escaping. Based on the cfm it's rated at I think you'll be a happy non-smoker.
 
MEHEAT said:
Thanks, Gasifier, I can fabricate whatever I need for duct work. Right now a have a 10" x 24" duct above my outdoor boiler door which I have under an open shed roof. I have 6" stove pipe attached to it that goes out the side of the shed and outside. I tried an inline 6" fan from Lowes but it has plastic fins and they quickly melted. Yours is rated for 104 degrees, and I would be a little concerned the smoke from the unit might be hotter than that. Is there a reason you laid the fan on it's side?
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AHS did all the work to the unit you see in my pictures. I puchased it just like that. Here is a link to their website and to the hood option. There is also a capacitor that you can see in the pictures along with the switch, looks like they installed both. What does the capacitor do for it? http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com/BoilerOptions.aspx

Here is a link I found for the capacitor. But I would think it would be easier to just buy it locally. http://compare.ebay.com/like/390370222800 Good luck man. And keep us posted. We like pics. :) With that size hood, I wonder if you would want to go with a more powerful fan.? How long is the run? Never mind. My hood measures 9x24. You should be good as long as the run is not to long.

Bob, so far I love it. The difference in loading the wood is unbelievable. Nice to be able to actually see the entire chamber and easily position the wood.
 

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Here is an example of the difference Bob.
 

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Mmm mmm mmm! Store bought and custom fitted. Looks slick and like it's the right thing. However it may be that the wife didn't want you to spend the bucks because shew doesn't want to go outside to smell the smoke because she likes it??? (hint: For Christmas buy her a snowmobile suit) :lol:
 
Cave2k said:
Mmm mmm mmm! Store bought and custom fitted. Looks slick and like it's the right thing. However it may be that the wife didn't want you to spend the bucks because shew doesn't want to go outside to smell the smoke because she likes it??? (hint: For Christmas buy her a snowmobile suit) :lol:
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:lol: I hear ya Cave. The difference in operating the boiler is very nice. And I have only had it hooked up for one day. When I showed my wife, she smiled. She did not want me to spend the money, but there are times when she loads it, and she knows it is going to be much nicer now. She just doesn't want to admit it! :lol:
 
Nice blower job. :zip:
Even though mine is in the garage I am considering it.
My newly painted ceiling is tan allready. :mad:
Not a big deal but hey why not I've spent $17k allready whats a few more clams.

Oh I also found a 1000 gallon propane tank for sale. Its 5 years old and the guy wants $1500 or best offer.

What the heck might as well go all the way.
 
Unless you're ready to install that tank tomorrow, I think I'd keep looking - that sounds like a pretty dear one.

Those 1000g. ones are pretty big too - do you have room? My current plans involve stacking two 330 gallon tanks.
 
maple1 said:
Unless you're ready to install that tank tomorrow, I think I'd keep looking - that sounds like a pretty dear one.

Those 1000g. ones are pretty big too - do you have room? My current plans involve stacking two 330 gallon tanks.
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The guy said it measures 25' long by 3' wide and 4' high.

This may sound crazy, but I am considering digging a pit, forming out walls with cement block and then putting a steel grating on top to be able to walk on it. Of course it would be insulated to the max as well.

Why do you say to keep looking? Is that too expensive? and what does "that sounds like a pretty dear one" mean?
 
It means it's not exactly a great deal, at least not in our market area. I have alkso considered the underground tank since my basement does not have enough room....hope you pursue and post plenty of pics!
 
infinitymike said:
maple1 said:
Unless you're ready to install that tank tomorrow, I think I'd keep looking - that sounds like a pretty dear one.

Those 1000g. ones are pretty big too - do you have room? My current plans involve stacking two 330 gallon tanks.
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The guy said it measures 25' long by 3' wide and 4' high.

This may sound crazy, but I am considering digging a pit, forming out walls with cement block and then putting a steel grating on top to be able to walk on it. Of course it would be insulated to the max as well.

Why do you say to keep looking? Is that too expensive? and what does "that sounds like a pretty dear one" mean?
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I would keep looking. I know we live in completely different areas but I bought my 1000 gallon tank for $350 and had 4 2" ports added for $150.

You could get different dimensions also. My tank is 16' long and about 42" diameter.

gg
 
Since you have cold weather coming, sooner or later %-P , you may want to keep looking. One reason I say this is if you have limited space, a large vertical tank can also have a few benefits. Yes, I am bias towards vertical tanks because that is what I have. But they take up less space and the water seems to blend, or stratify nicely. I have seen some nice ones occasionaly, but they are more rare than a used propane tank. I will do some searching again for you Mike and see if I can find anything close to you if you want. Since you are going to be just adding in your tank(s), I would think you would want at least 600 gallons total. (My 400 gallon tank is keeping me happy) But you could always put one in if you find a 400-500 gallon tank, and then add another in later by simply having the plumbing done to add in the tank with a couple of valves making it ready. Keep us posted Mike. Hey, with the connections you have boss. C'mon, get the f#%k outta here? You should have no problem finding one of these. Or having one made to order! :lol:
 
I dont know about the states but in Canada they raised the legal pressure ratings on lpg tanks to 300 psi from 200 psi. So there are a quite a few decommisioned tanks around right now .Superior propane sold me 2 500 gal and a 150 gal. tank for scrap price.


you might want to keep looking for a little while. Good chance you could get a usable tank for a lot less.

Huff
 
huffdawg said:
I dont know about the states but in Canada they raised the legal pressure ratings on lpg tanks to 300 psi from 200 psi. So there are a quite a few decommisioned tanks around right now .Superior propane sold me 2 500 gal and a 150 gal. tank for scrap price.


you might want to keep looking for a little while. Good chance you could get a usable tank for a lot less.

Huff
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looks like a road trip to canada is in order!

I will keep looking and looking.

And my apologies Gasifier. I dont want to take this thread hostage.

So lets get back to the smoke hood.
I considered buying a kitchen range hood and venting that way. Or maybe I could get one for free if I do a kitchen reno.
In fact we are doing an extension to a house that will involve a kitchen reno, I will grab that one!
 
infinitymike said:
maple1 said:
Unless you're ready to install that tank tomorrow, I think I'd keep looking - that sounds like a pretty dear one.

Those 1000g. ones are pretty big too - do you have room? My current plans involve stacking two 330 gallon tanks.
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The guy said it measures 25' long by 3' wide and 4' high.

This may sound crazy, but I am considering digging a pit, forming out walls with cement block and then putting a steel grating on top to be able to walk on it. Of course it would be insulated to the max as well.

Why do you say to keep looking? Is that too expensive? and what does "that sounds like a pretty dear one" mean?
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Sorry, yes, 'a dear tank' = dear to seller = kind of on the expensive side.
 
looks like a road trip to canada is in order!
I will keep looking and looking.
And my apologies Gasifier. I dont want to take this thread hostage.
So lets get back to the smoke hood.
I considered buying a kitchen range hood and venting that way. Or maybe I could get one for free if I do a kitchen reno.
In fact we are doing an extension to a house that will involve a kitchen reno, I will grab that one!

Mike,

You might as well look at it like this, "I need a nice round number for the project to end on." :lol: $20,000 is a nice round number! :coolsmirk:
The road trip to Canada will cost you dearly. Especially with the wife. :lol: Let me know when you go. I want to find the road you are hauling the tanks back on and take a picture as you go by. Spring for the hood from AHS. It looks good and works good. And you will want to brag about your awesome wood burning set up and wood piles eventually. So the better looking it is, the better bragging.

No, seriously though. I think the hood from AHS is worth it. Easy, just hook up exhaust pipe and wire an outlet in if you do not have one close enough by. If you fab something up, by the time you are done you will have at least $350 into it because of parts and all the time you will put into doing it. Probably more $ than that. Hey, come to think of it, you never ordered that cycle timer and low temp fan shut down option did you? Jeesh, I am still waiting for mine you know. Hellllloooooo, remember you were going to order mine at the same time to save me the time. The pay you next Tuesday thingy.? :lol:

Ooops. Sorry, I have a hard time being serious. :lol:
 
Godspeed to any of you brave souls trying to transport a used 1,000 gallon propane tank across the US border.

"Officer, I swear it's empty"
"How do I plan to use it? Obviously I'm going to fill it with hot water in my basement. What else would I use it for?"
"The scrap yard promised me there were no illegal immigrants inside this tank"
 
stee6043 said:
Godspeed to any of you brave souls trying to transport a used 1,000 gallon propane tank across the US border.

"Officer, I swear it's empty"
"How do I plan to use it? Obviously I'm going to fill it with hot water in my basement. What else would I use it for?"
"The scrap yard promised me there were no illegal immigrants inside this tank"
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That was funny. I love this forum. Makes me laugh and laugh.


"Really officer there are no concealed compartments with pounds of drugs inside"

On second thought I will look locally.
 
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