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  1. rdust Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 9, 2009
    3,339 posts
    Michigan
    Since we have a bunch of new BK owners this year I figured I'd start a thread to discuss everything BK. This may help limit the amount of BK threads and give us one convenient place to ask questions or just boast about our burn times without ruffling any feathers. ::-)

    Anyway I'm on my second season with the Princess and it continues to impress me. I getting ready to load after 25+ hours, the load was a pretty full load of scotch pine and elm that was standing dead for years.(some pieces punky) Our overnight temps were in the 30's and our daytime high was 41, we've had 30+ mph north winds all day. House is still a comfy 72 at this point.
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  2. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    Yep.
    But also you will see that the t-sat is very lazy.
    Though it does work.
    Would love to see it more sensitive to temp changes.
    But I don't know if it could be.
    I check with the ir right above the shaft over the cover that still covers up the actual t-stat when the big cover is off.
    I see it being room temp when cold to as high as 250 degrees f.
    I think 250 was the highest I have seen it..I should check again.
  3. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    Another tip that I like to do
    I like to reload at 7 or so at night if I'm going to load her up full.
    That way the hotter part of the burn is during the colder dark hours.
    Takes way less heat output in the daylight hours to heat a house.
    So the last half of the burn is during daylight when the output is less.
    Make sense?
  4. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    Well after adjusting the by-pass lats weekend it now just came unhooked .
    Trying to burn up the woof that is left so I can pull the pipe and check it out.
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  5. Todd Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    8,785 posts
    Lake Wissota
    Since I already had to adjust my door to get a tight seal on my new stove I've been wondering about that bypass gasket as well. It still makes that clunk sound when I throw the lever and the stove is burning clean so I guess I won't mess with it for now.
  6. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    Well i just slid my pipe up and looked in.
    The bracket that the arm catches to open the by pass broke off at the weld.
    It had nothing to do with me adjusting it I don't think because that bracket just catches the arm then lifts the cover.
    It still will hold the by pass shut tightly even with it not there.
    I still have some heat in the stove so I slid the pipe back down and will let t die out then bring my mig in tomorrow night to weld that catch back on.
    I'm not happy about it at all.
    I'll take pics then to better explain what happened.
  7. rdust Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 9, 2009
    3,339 posts
    Michigan
    That sucks! It should be easy enough to fix but something you obviously shouldn't be dealing with. I'm sure BK would take care of it but easier/faster to just fix it yourself since you're capable of handing it.
  8. rdust Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 9, 2009
    3,339 posts
    Michigan
    Just loaded my daily load and realized I still haven't had to take any ash out of the stove yet. I'm not even half way up the bricks yet so I have a little while before I have to take any out. I'll let it get near the top of the bricks unless we get a cold snap were I need every inch of space in the stove. I sure love how deep the firebox is in this stove, you BKK guys are really spoiled! :)
  9. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    Yeah..I doubt they would do anything about it being that is a little over 2 years old now.
    I think I can get it ok but some would have to pay out some bigger money to get it fixed..for sure would be a pain if you had to take it somewhere.
    Hopefully it is just a freak thing...just a sloppy weld it seems.
  10. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    I pulled the catch out when i had the pipe pulled up earlier.
    Penetration don't look good and you can see one side was doing all the work lifting the by pass up.

    Also a load of almost 2 year old Walnut I picked up today..guy has at least 5 or 6 more face cords.

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  11. Highbeam Minister of Fire

    That weld shouldn't see much load should it? Only when lifting the bypass plate? We do love pictures and it is better to know of a weakness just in case.
  12. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    Nope..just when opening the by pass.
    Closing the by pass it sees none.
    It's hard to get a good pic.

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  13. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    3,992 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    I usually burn around 1/2-3/4 of a cord before I need to empty the stove. It'll fill my ash pail, which holds 5 gallons.

  14. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,346 posts
    southern ontario
    Didn't someone somewhere say there is a ten year warranty on the Blaze Kings? You could certainly contact them, and it is probably a good thing to alert them to the problem, in case others have it or they need to modify any welding procedure....
  15. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,684 posts
    SE MI
    Ten years on the cat. I think stuff like that is five.

    That bypass damper is a PITA to get out. You have to pull the cat and figure out which way to turn it and then wiggle it just right. Weld it in the stove if you can.

    This is the bottom side of the door, where the frame is welded to the body of the stove. No penetration into the frame for almost the whole width of the door.

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  16. Todd Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    8,785 posts
    Lake Wissota
    I empty my ash once per week, guess I could go longer. So far I haven't noticed any difference in burn times between no ash and 3" of ash.
    I might get the ash pan option for my stove, I just can't shovel it out without making a mess with flying ash. Every time I shovel I get a light layer of fly ash on top of the stove and also on my desk 5' away. It takes forever for the coals to burn out and I forsee a problem when it gets colder and I want to shovel ashes out of a hot stove.
  17. Todd Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    8,785 posts
    Lake Wissota
    You guys got me scared about these poor welds. The welds around my door all look good as far as I can tell.
  18. jeff_t Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 14, 2008
    2,684 posts
    SE MI
    After I found that one, I went and took a really good look at my stove.

    That stove was built in 2005, so maybe that guy doesn't work there anymore.
  19. Todd Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    8,785 posts
    Lake Wissota
    Are these things welded my man or machine?
  20. Hiram Maxim Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 25, 2007
    1,049 posts
    SE Michigan
    IMHO the ash pan for these stoves rock! :)
  21. Highbeam Minister of Fire

    Judging by the length of weld and lack of a reposition along that weld I am guessing machine.
  22. Todd Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    8,785 posts
    Lake Wissota
    Checked out all my welds and found this on the left rear side. Looks like some creosote leaked through a weld. Not a major leak but still not good. I cleaned it up and smeared some furnace cement in there.
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  23. rdust Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 9, 2009
    3,339 posts
    Michigan
    I'd hit up your dealer and see what they can do for you.(I'm curious more than anything else) Maybe it'll be the typical we'll give you xxxx amount for a welder to fix it but you never know.

    I'm not even going to look mine over! It works as advertised and I'm figuring I'll have the urge to buy another stove before this one causes me trouble. ;lol I paid around a 1/3 of local retail for mine so if I have issue I won't be too bothered.(I have plenty of friends that are good welders) If I paid full price and had issues I wouldn't be too happy about it.
  24. phatline New Member

    joined: Feb 27, 2012
    12 posts
    Lake Tahoe, California
    I get a clunk when the bypass first drops shut, then a snap/clink sound (and feeling) when it locks in on my new Princess.

    An update: last night I ran a test with a full load of cedar. I used just the cedar because I'm sure that stuff is dry--you can practically light it with a match and no kindling. I started her up at 3pm and lowered down to #1.25 on the thermostat, in increments, by 4:40. Then I let it run. Now this is below the lowest level I'd been successful at before (#1.5). As I expected, the fire "went out", by which I mean there was no visible glow in the firebox and the flue and cat temps started dropping. But something surprising happened a full hour later--the coals started glowing again, and some small wisps of blue flame appeared. The Princess followed this cycle, about an hour "off" and an hour "on", all the while maintaining roughly 300F on the stovetop. There was very little wood left when I went to bed at midnight, so I'd call that a 9 hour burn cycle on #1.25 with very dry, low-BTU wood.

    Is this normal for you guys, when burning at a low setting (cycling between on and off)? Or does it indicate I'm having a draft problem?

    To diagnose the potential draft problem, I got a Dwyer Mark II manometer. Given my flue gas cools rapidly in the single-wall pipe, any ideas where would be the best place to probe the flue for draft? Obviously I can't get too close to the stovetop without melting the probe tube.

    BTW I'm running the same test today with a load of oak. At least a couple of the pieces I put on were damp--didn't measure a fresh split but they were hissing as they started to burn--so I think y'all are right that moisture content could play a role in some of my issues. I think the guy sold me a mixed lot of variously seasoned pieces, because some measure drier than others.
  25. jtb51b Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 24, 2007
    327 posts
    Birmingham AL
    Sounds normal to me. 300 degrees even sounds right for 1.25.. Try it on 1.5 you should see around 375 or so. It will probably run a little less time but the heat output will be greater..

    Jason
  26. Todd Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    8,785 posts
    Lake Wissota
    This has happened to me as well, just when you think it's headed for a stall she perks back up. Sometimes you just have to trust the t-stat and let her go. I can really see when the t-stat is doing it's thing because my Teltru probe in my stack will go up as much as 100 degrees then fall back after a while.

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