2012 Prez Election - who WILL win (in your opinion)

Whoever gets the most electoral votes will win.

Right on brother

The guy on the right ("left" in political terms).

I think that the Libertarian's will win.

I don't mean that they will win the presidency, but I think they will capture enough of the vote to be recognized as a legitimate party in the 2016 election.

-SF

We need another four years like the last. Obama.

quit being pervy

the thought of the stock market hitting that in that short a time is scary. im not sure the market could be stable with that big a rise that short in time. im not a market analyst but it seems to me that "boom and bust" isnt good for the economy.

yeah, thats kinda what i mean. if the stock market shoots up in a boom cycle unchecked it will eventually see a bigger than normal drop at the end of the "boom" some sectors i think would be more harmful than others, for instance the " dot com bubble" while it cost a lot of people a lot of money when it burst, there wasnt nearly as much intrinsic value in hard assets affected outside of the companies which busted, now the housing bubble was a different thing when it busted it affected a lot of people who had nothing to do with the stock market or the construction business which went south as a result. indirectly they got drilled when house values plummetted coupled with a big drop in the overall economy.

you dont have to be a liberal to understand that the lax regulations involving credit default swaps was one of the biggest drivers of this boom and its eventual bust. its pretty easy to understand.
to combat this kind of boom and bust cycle the government along with the fed need to use monetary ploicy like a kind of "throttle" when the market gets to building too fast the brakes need to be pumped a few times to not kill the growth but to allow it to grow at a reasonable pace, when the market is depressed methods of taking the binders off( or loosening them so to speak) to allow it to reverse the backward flow should be applied, now im not an economist but i do understand the ebb and flow of the markets and their affect on the economy in general.

I think if the government doesn't step in and do what FDR did it will happen again and again. The investment banks and the traditional banks have to be separated again. It's not right to allow the big banks to come in and gobble up the smaller banks and use that money for speculation. We still have a mess on our hands, one being said is that our currency is backed by the full faith and credit of the US government. What happens when the faith is gone and so is the credit?

I'm hoping for the unlikely tie scenario.
House would vote Romney in and then Joey could be the tie breaking vote on the senate floor - for himself of course

I think Big O will pull it off. It is too close for my liking. What will the House will look like after Nov.?

i was looking at going from the approx 13K of today to 26K in 4 years (as you said and i realize you were just tossing a number out there) there really isnt a viable way for a doubling of the market in 4 years time without an enormous run in somthing, runs like that rarely have much of a tangible asset backing it , more like a house of cards like the dirivitives market had with the default swaps. when the market grows at a normal pace equal to that of the economy's growth its usually "backed" by somthing solid. i'd love to see the dow at about 18K in 4 years but at 26 i'd be scared it would drop like a rock again when one of the "cards" fell out