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  1. Cleetussnow

    Cleetussnow Member

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    Called the local stealer today to see what they had on hand, and top of the list with a terrific winded sales pitch came the okie douglas fir ultra premium for 409.

    409 bucks, they have to be twice as good as the firesides and chows i get around the corner from the hd next to my house. Those bags had better glow in the dark.

    I asked if they sold any, and they said no.

    Interested if anyone has encountered such silliness elsewhere.

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  2. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

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    Someone just did a cost comparison and that price was break even for oil!?
  3. eboucher

    eboucher Member

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    Do they load them in the stove on a regular basis for you?
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  4. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    My nearest dealer wouldn't market them. It would be special order only. I didn't ask the price. Pretty much knew I couldn't swing them. I have not seen anyone advertise prices on them yet.
  5. stoveguy2esw

    stoveguy2esw Minister of Fire

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    GAWD! thats insane, BTW for what its worth, there is no "recognised" super premium grade, only premium >1% ash etc and so on, the "super premium" grade is fabricated
  6. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    Have you ever burned a douglas fir pellet? I should say a Bear Mountains doug fir?

    0.017% ash content and extremely hot. These are rumored to be Bear Mountains from out west. I can't swing the cost, But some will.
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  7. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

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    How many people go out and buy less than 5 gallons of propane for 18-20 bucks? Quite a few.
  8. Augmister

    Augmister Minister of Fire

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    Nah, that's what happens when the dollar looses it reserve status... you think being a pellet pig is just a game?
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  9. Cleetussnow

    Cleetussnow Member

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    Someone has to fall on their sword and buy a bag or 2. If it turns out to me, i will report results.

    But everythng at that dealer is a rip off because they own the region. I look for the alternatives first.
  10. save$

    save$ Minister of Fire

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    $409 per ton. Can't imagine I would part with that money for a ton of pellets. Not unless I got TWICE the heat I am getting from what I am burning now. But twice the heat would drive me out of the house.
  11. Cleetussnow

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    For me these would have to be like 16000 btu per bag to make sense. I would have to wear a lead smock to load the thing.
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  12. nailed_nailer

    nailed_nailer Minister of Fire

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  13. Hardy_Boy

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  14. IHATEPROPANE

    IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

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    Lmfao...makes the 409 look like a deal!!!


    When everyone goes to natural gas and stops buying pellets we will go back to normal lol. Have you noticed all the charts that show price increases over the years between the heating fuels stop in 2011?? Pellets at least at the dealers have gone up 20-30% in the last couple years.
  15. ScotL

    ScotL Feeling the Heat

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    Hah. Says 92,000 BTUs on that website. In 11 pounds, maybe. Must be just a typo based on a moisture & ash free calculated BTU - which I wish the labs would stop reporting because it's a useless and misleading number.
    Mike is right about the removal of the "super premium" grade from the PFI standards, but they may not be PFI members. The "premium" standard is <1% ash (not >1% but I did see a bag once that advertised >1% ash) and "super premium" used to be <0.5% ash. Which is really the new "premium" if you want to sell your pellets.
    I would believe a result 0.17% ash (not 0.017% though) on their best test. The softwood in the northeast doesn't get quite that low. Pretty close but not quite there.
  16. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    Whoops, 0.17% from the TP test data. I got 0.11% and rechecked everything twice. Still didn't believe but that was what I got. Really surprised me! Cleanest pellets I have burnt in a really really long time. Most stuff(clean softies) is in the 0.20 to 0.30 range.

    I too wish they would drop the moisture free part. As tested is all we need. I have never seen a moisture free pellet, Would it even stay together?
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  17. boosted3g

    boosted3g Feeling the Heat

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    For natural gas to rein king they need to do a much better job providing it. Gas is across the street from our development and we have all begged for it to be run over to us. Over 200 homes all on heat pumps and wanting gas furnaces. Not a shovel has hit the dirt yet. Unless they start hooking up to homes that are already built I don't think they have a leg to stand on since they are limiting new home permits to preserve farmland in my area.
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  18. Branson4720

    Branson4720 Burning Hunk

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    :eek:
  19. glenc0322

    glenc0322 Minister of Fire

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    wow at that price a bag better last 48 hours and put off some amazing heat or ill stick to the stove chow for 189 a ton
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  20. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    I got a verbal price in my area of around $330 to $340 landed. Thats a bit more than Okies at $305, But I still think some will buy them for the cold and the time when you can't afford to be shutting down the stove to clean in the cold. You'll get approximately 2x the run before cleaning as they are approx twice as clean burning. AKA a little stove that's running balls out just to keep up in the cold!

    I'd like to talk myself into them. But I too can't afford them either. Nor would I really need them with enough horsepower for the cold even with a so so pellet. Hell of a pellet for those who can afford them!
  21. glenc0322

    glenc0322 Minister of Fire

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    Thinking about it. At 409a ton I'll get my chain saw cut down a douglas fir tree, chop it to little bits then press them into pellets my self.
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  22. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    The $409 is a fluke, The same place is probably getting high dollar for all their stuff. Price them at a dealer thats not gouging prices!
  23. Cleetussnow

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    They had okies for 349
    Cubex for 329
    Energex for 280
    Omallays for 280

    None of which i would pay as much for.

    I would pay 300 for a single ton of okies i suppose for the coldest of nights, but i can get country boys for that.
  24. fmsm

    fmsm Minister of Fire

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    Makes me feel good about ordering a ton of Cleanfire Douglas Fur at $319 for the ton.
  25. SmokeEater

    SmokeEater Feeling the Heat

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    Just got my winter's supply .......8 tons of Curran's Blend delivered in two loads from Begor's for $244.99 per ton. The same two years ago were $225 so not complaining especially after the $409 per ton Okie Doug Fir Ultra Premium.

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