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  1. jrendfrey Member

    joined: Jan 15, 2012
    124 posts
    green mtns vt
    Hey guys I have a warn2500lb winch on my four wheeler I was out plowing today and I can't seem to get the winch to come in and lift the plow. It will only go out I'm thinking its the button that it mounted on the handle bars? We've got quite a bit of snow the last couple days and am going to need to plow again luckily I was about90% done has anyone had any similar troubles or experience with these four wheeler winches. The in button is completely dead as we're I push the out button the winch activates and works?
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  2. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,254 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Switch the wires at the winch motor. If it acts opposite of what you are experiencing, it is the switch.

    Edit: thinking about this, is the switch energizing a relay, or do the wires go directly to the winch? If relays are involved, they could also be a culprit.
  3. zap Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 25, 2009
    10,355 posts
    Is your cable on the winch tangled inside, what happens when plowing using the winch is by lifting & dropping the plow the cable gets loose which can cause it to kink when you bring it back in, then when you go to let it back out it actualy reverses itself causing it to stop or break.

    I understand this has nothing to do with the button but it could be tangled up inside so it won't let it out.

    Speaking from experience
    Zap
  4. lukem Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2010
    3,121 posts
    Indiana
    If is a Warn the switch in the handlebars energizes a relay...and you should hear an audible click on the relay. If the winch moves one direction the motor is OK. I would measure the voltage coming out of the switch first...then move on to the relay if the switch checks out. Most likely the switch.

    To Jags' point you could switch the wires at the relay (blue and yellow) to rule out one or the other. If you arent sure what the relay is follow the red wire coming off your battery.
  5. osagebow Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 29, 2012
    738 posts
    Shenandoah Valley, VA
    I second zap's experiences with the cable.

    Also- Once you get it sorted out, figure a way to hook the plow to the front rack ( if you have one) to take the weight off the winch cable when not plowing. I've used a heavy carabiner and short length of chain from day 1. My friends and I got our 3 Hondas together in '04 to get free plows. My winch is the only original still working, and has been used at least twice as much.
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  6. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,106 posts
    Michigan
    I like your idea Osage but when I'm done, I usually just remove the blade because it doesn't take much to mount or dismount.
  7. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,753 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    Why would that little bit of weight on the cable hurt the winch? Hanging <100lbs off a 2500 lb winch shouldn't hurt it.
  8. Shmudda Member

    joined: Dec 6, 2009
    78 posts
    Western Pennsylvania
    Its not the weight, its the tight radius the cable is forced into as it breaks over the fairlead that damages the cable.

    Need to get Amsteel Rope, it's the best for this type of work.

    Craig
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  9. taxidermist Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 11, 2008
    1,009 posts
    Fowlerville MI
  10. osagebow Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 29, 2012
    738 posts
    Shenandoah Valley, VA

    I have to crawl under mine with 2 cotter pins....giant PITA
  11. Adkjake Member

    joined: Jan 3, 2010
    197 posts
    Adirondack High Peaks
    I hear ya on that, I have a Moose Plow, mounts underneath with 2 hitch pins. Sometimes it takes 2 minutes to attach, sometimes takes longer with some
    cursing thrown in. It is a real tight fit where the pins go thru the mounting brackets, which I guess is a good thing for wear and tear.

    I do like the idea of taking the weight off the winch and the front of the ATV with some chain and a carabiner when not plowing.
  12. DuckDog Member

    joined: Sep 3, 2010
    68 posts
    Eastern Ontario
    I had a Warn A-2000 upgraded to a 2500 via the factory upgrade kit (solonoid and switch). Winch came new with the wheeler in mid 2000. Thought I smoked the winch as the switch would audibly cycle the solonoid. Found an Warn RT/30 kit for $200. Replaced winch and still no go. Replaced solonoid and good to go.
    +1 vote for solonoid issue. Easy way to tell is to do what Jags said.
    Let us know how it works out.
  13. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,254 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Just helped a friend over the new years with the same problem. Brand new winch. The switch at the handle bars WAS energizing the relay, however the relay was not making good enough contact to send juice to the winch motor. Repeated raps on the relay while exercising the switch got it in motion. Once a few dozen cycles worked flawlessly, I think we got it wore in.
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  14. zap Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 25, 2009
    10,355 posts
    http://www.mooseutilities.com/products/?productGroupId=44009&productId=121148

    The pulley kit will be installed before the weekend, it's supposed to get rid of the cable breaking on the winch, if not then next year I'll switch to the Synthetic Winch Rope.

    The pulley system is all hooked up, I'll put the plow on the Rhino tomorrow to see how it works.

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