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  1. simple.serf Member

    joined: Dec 7, 2011
    184 posts
    Chautauqua co. NY
    Thus far, at this house all of my "almost burnt the house/barn down" events involve a very faulty ITE pushmatic electrical box. It's going away in the next two months. I don't worry about the stove, but it's the last thing I check before I go to bed, and the first thing I check when I get up in the morning (and halfway though the night).
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  2. fossil Super Moderator

    joined: Sep 30, 2007
    9,260 posts
    Bend, Oregon
    Scariest personal experience for me had everything to do with combustibles (firewood) sitting too close to the side of a steel stove (old Lopi 520 that was in the house when we bought it) that was rippin' into its overnight burn fuel load. Laying in bed, I kept thinking I smelled smoke...finally got up to check, and the dang ends of some of those splits close to (but outside of!) the stove were smoldering/smoking...just about ready to burst into flame. Scared the bejeezuz out of me. I can't even look at either of my stoves without remembering that...and it was in 2007. Rick
  3. FanMan Member

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    249 posts
    CT stix
    The wiring is typical 1930s where it hasn't been upgraded (and I've upgraded much of it). The plumbing was so bad that I replaced all of it... it was nothing but splices and patches presumably due to split frozen pipes from improper winter draining. The core structure was solid but the later additions were pretty bad... I went into it knowing I'd have to completely gut and renovate it. Took 5 years but I finally finished (more or less) last spring.
  4. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,423 posts
    southern ontario
    Sounds like you'll be able to relax and enjoy for many years. Pictures?
  5. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    well one thing i do in the winter is have the right amount of garden hose to reach my stove. its in the heated basement nothing worse than to have a fire and your hose is frozen or having not enough hose to reach it !! never needed it but id rather cover may butt.
  6. theonlyzarathu New Member

    joined: Dec 17, 2011
    99 posts
    Bar Harbor, Maine
    I have to say that when I was burning the old riteway 37 in a 7 inch outside insulated chimney pipe it was way more scary than anything last year when I started buring a Pacific Energy Summit using the stainles Steel liner in the concrete and ceramic flue that goes up the center of the house. The old side drafting riteway was a heck of a big stove holding 4 cu ft of wood. But the draft was so intense that even with a damper in the stack there were times I couldn't slow it down and the interior stove pipe got cherry red at about 900 degrees F. When it was below 20 and the wind was blowing I could either not burn wood, or only burn small amounts because the stove would "take off" and I would be running fans on the stove and the interior pipe to try to keep it cooled down.

    The worst time I had all winter with the PE Summit was when the temps ouside were -8 and the wind started blowing at about 30 mph. And then I simply turned the air intake down, turned the blower fan on full, and the temps stabilized in about 5 minutes.

    The PE stove in an appropriate configuation is a dream to start up, and easy as sin to run smoothly. But never leave the front door open or you might have a serious problem. Other than that, there is really nothing more that you can do. You turn the stove back to "L" at night or when you arenot there, and you are good to go.
  7. NextEndeavor Member

    joined: Jan 16, 2011
    196 posts
    Southern Iowa
    I'm careful about not loading thing such that a chunk of wood could roll/fall into the glass. If using a butane lighter, never set it down near the hearth. Never use a liquid fuel to start a fire.
  8. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Honestly . . . I don't know if I would say I "worry" . . . but I am always thinking about the woodstove . . . and it doesn't matter if I am home or not home. In some ways, there may be less worry if no one is home and the stove is going unattended since if something does happen no one is at risk . . . one way of looking at it I suppose . . . although one could also argue that if you were home and things went bad you would wake up and be able to deal with the problem.
  9. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Hmmm . . . that sounds very familiar. ;)
  10. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    What scares me is something oddly goes wrong with my co2 alarm while i am sleeping.

    That's my biggest fears may sound odd just check your alarms often.
  11. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    But be aware that most folks check their CO and smoke alarms simply by pushing the test button . . . which tests the audible alarm and for power . . . but does not actually check the sensing unit. You can purchase "canned smoke" from some hardware stores and electric supply places that will test the actual sensing unit in the smoke alarm.
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  12. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Just realized . . . this may have sounded "harsh" . . . when in fact I understand what you're saying . . . that if you are home you know there is a good chance you can monitor things and deal with most situations vs. being away. Didn't want to come across as a DB.
  13. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA

    Gret tip i did not know that.
  14. maverick06 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 27, 2008
    641 posts
    media, pa
    I am always watching to see how the stove is going. Its a combination of looking for an efficient burn, looking to keep it from getting too hot, and little OCD. It might drive my wife a bit nuts, but it doesnt hurt to keep an eye on it! The stove has been wonderful, but it is always in my mind when its going, suspect thats what makes it safe for me.

    My wife does a very good job when running it too, certainly better than average. But she doesnt have the paranoia of continually checking on it as i do.

    gegtting new smoke alarms has been one of the most obvious and yet overlooked things i did. The old ones had long since expired.
  15. FanMan Member

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    249 posts
    CT stix
  16. Poult Member

    joined: Jan 12, 2008
    109 posts
    Northern NYS
    In my opinion, once you get into the swing of things burning wood you should be good. Where the problem is (with me, anyway) is when something unexpected happens, like a knock on the door with someone telling you your cows are out, for example, and your mind changes gear completely and you walk out of the house without checking the stove. You need to get it in your head that in all circumstances you will walk to the stove and check it when something happens that you didn't expect that will take you away from the stove.
  17. neumsky Combustion Analyzer

    joined: Dec 25, 2011
    567 posts
    Oklahoma City
  18. Sprinter Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 1, 2012
    853 posts
    Western Washington
    Well, I've only been burning for 4 days now (right), and only in the morning, but I've already identified a few potential areas to watch for. One is that it is very easy to go off and do something (like take a shower) after initially lighting the fire with the damper full open. My operating manual suggests waiting about 20 minutes on full before turning the damper down which leaves plenty of time to get distracted with making coffee, breakfast, whatever. At first, I followed somebody's advise and opened the door for little while after lighting, but I won't do that anymore at all. I have a stove top thermometer, but I'm going to look for one that has a settable alarm. That should help during the night as well. I have a Polder electronic meat thermometer but it only goes up to 392 F.
  19. fishingpol Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 13, 2010
    1,937 posts
    Merrimack Valley, MA
    No that's fine Jake. Maybe "worry" should have been "in the back of my mind". I have examples why I think this. When I was a kid, we had an plug-in timer for a lamp short out and catch fire in our living room. It was put out quickly with a fire extinguisher. Scary nonetheless being a kid. The other was a few years ago, my neighbors steam boiler water auto-fill failed and the unit overheated until it was cherry red in places. They heard the smoke alarms and called 911 and everything turned out fine. I guess for me it is just a better chance to respond and call for help if you are home.
  20. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Good . . . sometimes I type and realize afterwards that I may have come across wrong . . . by the way, very manly looking woodbox! ;)
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  21. osagebow Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 29, 2012
    765 posts
    Shenandoah Valley, VA
    Testing fire alarms by sneaking up while the wife cooks in our tiny kitchen has been a running joke for years. (She often forgets to put the exhaust fan on) Helps hone the reflexes, too!
  22. Dakotas Dad Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 19, 2009
    1,212 posts
    Central Kentucky
    Just like smoke detectors.. we have more than 1..
  23. btuser Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 15, 2009
    1,884 posts
    The island of Rhum Boogie
    Don't vacuum up ash with your vacuum cleaner.
  24. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,423 posts
    southern ontario
    Anybody else ever had all the fire alarms in their house go off at once and had ALL the children sleep right through them, while you are running around dying from the sound, trying to figure out what the heck is going on?
  25. stoveguy2esw Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 14, 2006
    4,534 posts
    madison hgts. va
    KUDO'S to FF jake! what an amazingly great post!

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