A few pictures of our boiler systems.

Post in 'The Boiler Room - Wood Boilers and Furnaces' started by Gasifier, Nov 4, 2011.

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  1. wardk

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    8 hrs on a single charge of wood, your Froling must cycle on and off as heat is needed.Excuse my ignorance but I didn't think gassers liked that much idle time. Does it smoke during idle.I know mine smokes a bit till the flue reaches 350f and runs between 350-450 usually run it 3 to 4 hrs with two full charges of wood.
     
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  2. kopeck

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    Well, it's not the most efficient way to run them but they will do it. There's a bunch of guys on here that run their gassers with out storage, that means your going to to idle.

    Even with storage I get some idling on mine as the return water gets closer to the supply temp (ie the tank is getting getting close to the supply temp). With mine the fan shuts off for a couple of minutes, once the temps come back down the fan kicks back on and things get rolling. While it's idling I do get just a hint of smoke from the chimney.

    It gets back to gasification pretty quick, there's always a nice bed of coals.

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    No. I have been avoiding slumbering the Froling by timing and limiting how much fuel I put in. On a coal bed with the boiler hot I can only put in three or so splits for three hours to avoid overfeeding and slumbering. It slumbers on high temps and goes off for fuel load burnout, excess O2 > 19%. When empty I can only load 1/2 to 1/3 with fuel, on softwood.

    It was one piece of wood, a big white oak solid knot that was cut and outside one year. I put that in to burn slower and some softwood to make a fire. The oak chunk went out twice, burnt out the softwood, and the Froling went off, not slumbering. The tree piece was slow roasted and burned, that's the first picture of wood that had gone out.
     
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    Very nice job Dan. That Froling must be sweet! Thanks for sharing your pics of your system.
     
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    A fun evening at work, check out page 6 of this thread for some background info.....

    It's actually quite funny that it only took me 13.5 years to do this, LOL.

    Boiler 2 was taken down yesterday for a scheduled mid run water wash, the heat transfer tubing gets pressure washed at 10,000 psi.

    After burning 1350 gallons of propane heating up for 4 hours, we drop trash into the furnace. That black square in the back is about 4-5 feet high and 14 feet wide. The furnace is actually 16 feet wide.

    The blob on the right wall is a clinker, essentially a "moon rock" of melted and re-solidified ash with lots of metallic debris embedded in it. When they get too heavy to hang on to the wall they "shed" and come through the fuel bed like a snow plow.

    That thing that rolls down near the viewport is a plastic lid for a 55 gal drum.

    http://s23.beta.photobucket.com/user/Mustash29/media/Misc/MOV00221_zps72f22a06.mp4.html

    Dry trash sitting in an 800 degree "oven" only takes about 10 minutes to spontaneously combust. The flicker you see is from the gas burner flames, which are 20 feet above the fuel bed.

    From camp fire to fully engulfed took just over one minute. From here on, the burners are shut off and the fire is self sustaining as long as you keep shoving more fuel in.

    When we stop feeding, it takes about one hour to burn up what is sitting on the grates and what is left in the feed chute.

    http://s23.beta.photobucket.com/user/Mustash29/media/Misc/MOV00222_zps4687fa7a.mp4.html
     
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  6. Gasifier

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    Very cool mustash29. Thanks for sharing all of it. Do those clinkers do any damage to the burn chamber? Do they burn up or is there a process to take them out?
     
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    Hello again gentlemen. Just wanted to see if anyone had a new system or old system that they wanted to add pictures of to this thread. I love seeing other peoples systems!
     
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    some old pics. pipes and room are insulated now. still need to get doors for boiler room.
     

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    I like your storage tank setup.
    Are these 2 x 500 gallon tanks?
    Can you post some pictures of the skirt that's keeping them in the vertical position?
     
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    Very nice Coal Reaper! Thanks for sharing. How do you like the Vedolux so far? How much sq.ft. you heating and what type of house? Baseboard? Radiant in-floor?
     
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    Love it! Spend too much time on hearth tho. Just put second load in so i find myself checking the forum as i watch the gasification chamber through the view pane. Currently only running for DHW. Going through about 105#s of wood every five days. Vedo is in insulated room in barn. House is 2400sqft, cathedral cieling in family room as well as three bedrooms and two baths upstairs, slant fin baseboard. Have taco bumble bee in set point mode returning 140*f water back to storage. Pump runs at 41 watts for a few minutes and then backs off to 9-11 watts. Awesome stratification and i think i can get away with 120* return to storage.
     

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    Sweet man. It must get warm in that boiler room! Does that and the tanks radiate off a lot of heat? I know I love my spray foam on my 400 gallon tank. Wish it was twice as thick. Maybe this year sometime I will add another layer. I am currently heating for DHW as well. My first summer I heated for DHW all spring summer and fall. This summer I got so busy I stopped burning around the end of May or beginning of June, I can't remember, and just got back to burning around September 2nd. Nice to be back.
     
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    Boiler is insulated well and sides are cool to touch. Most of heat comes from short stovepipe section and its not unbearable. When the unit is not running it is actually cooler in the room now than before i insulated due to the south facing wall and steel siding. Its very comfortable now, no humidity. 5-6" foam on tanks, foam surface is ambient temp. I have some exposed fitting that i should make an attempt to cover up. What are yourunning?
     
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    Any more new systems to add to this thread? Some very cool systems. Mine has been humming away and going through some serious wood the last few days. Temps have been hovering below 15::F here. It was -17::F at 5:30 this morning with a little wind. Glad it wasn't much wind! My Wood Gun went through a whole chamber full of White Ash in 8 hours last night! But, I did not have to get out of bed until after I had a good 7 hours of sleep!
     
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    IMAG0133.jpg IMAG0130.jpg This kind of photo is hard to capture with my boiler. Burning ash and elm in this load.
     
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    I see from your sig you are running an Attack 35. How do you like it? Looks like some serious flames there. Got any pics of the outside? How close are you to having your storage operating?
     
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    I can't complain, but I don't have another gassed to compare too. It did not take long to realize dry wood works best. I still could tune the air and the fan speed. Storage will make that tuning even easier. If I get some time off work,the plasma cutter will get a little work out. I am joining two 500 gal.vertically. when I am done pics will be posted. Thanks for asking.
     
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    Anyone else find that opening they're secondary door kills the magical gas flame?

    I can look through the peep hole and it's that really cool redish-blue flame but if I open the door to take a closer look it goes out after a second or two. I'm just cracking the door too.

    I guess what I'm saying is no cool pics from me :)

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    ::-)My peep hole is 6x6".
     
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    Yeah, I know. That's really kind of a cool "feature".

    Does the glass darken at all? My peep hole fills up with fly ash but other wise stays clean.

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    MaryAnne (Tarm MB30) 1st time fire yesterday... Woohoo!
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    started with 1100 gallons, water to bottom sight glass w/ 1 atmosphere in the air tanks.
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    Eventually it will be primary/secondary.... but thats a ways away yet...
     
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    Mine gets the odd dribble of creosote on it from the front of the wood chamber, directly above. Doesn't happen very often or much. Likely when I get an odd damp piece of wood in there, and loaded to the front. I haven't cleaned it since mid-last winter, and there might be 3 or 4 of those marks on it. Otherwise nothing else on it.
     
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    Nice bugle. I like it. Is this your first fire this year? Or first fire in it for you?
     
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    1st w/ a boiler, certainly not for this little danish tart! She's got a tiny leak at both top (1") rubber (I'm told) plugs (looks like it may have seeped there for a while.... grrr. the poor hot cream filling has been oozed from there before and corroded the original boiler paint and further into the metal.) never had a DWH coil. so they probably never noticed the seepage. I', just gonna keep an eye on it 'till spring or so. (and I know the "spring or so" could turn into an over night boiler plugweld job at the 1st turn from acceptable.)
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    I'm on the 3rd firing now. Give up the heat, steel.
     
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