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Post in 'DIY and General non-hearth advice' started by WoodMann, Jan 26, 2009.

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  1. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    Samsung is "consolidating" their independant service locations. Make sure you can get service with in a reasonable distance.

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  2. Ugly

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    I agree with the branding Eileen has put forward. Personally I buy Panasonic with the odd dip into LG for cheaper stuff.

    Service contracts however are just insurance and often underwritten by insurance companies. It's your choice. I never buy them, if it blows it blows. I'm not in the business of financing yet one more service company. Obviously they are making money or they wouldn't do it. I consider all household appliances/electronics as disposable items more or less. In other words, if it dies there's money in the budget to get another since I didn't buy all those friggin service plans.

    If you really get into these service plans, look at whole house service plans for all your major devices including furnaces etc, way cheaper than piece meal deals you get when buying a single unit and some of them will even cover your electric toothbrush. Again, it's just an insurance plan.

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  3. d.n.f.

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    Panasonic is getting out of the tv business. They are stopping production this year.
  4. WoodMann

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    Thanks guys- I'm still looking/ learning. I'm buttoning up my quad now and am gonna sell it, yes- age is catching up with me, never thought it would........................
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    I went through a few LCD's in my home before I finally got what I wanted. I bought an Insignia from BB...it was actually a really nice set, but it had an electrical problem so I returned it within the 30 day no hassle return period and swapped it out wiht a Toshiba Regza. Another nice set whose backlight overheated on me and cracked the LCD panel. Returned that after some arguing wiht the BB manager and got a Panasonic 50" plasma set. Hung it on the wall in the living room and its just fantastic to look at. I have a wall of windows on the West side of the room (see my avatar, thats my house) and there is zero problem watching tv even on the brightest days...the Panasonic plasmas have an anti-glare coating that many other manufacturers do not seem to use for reasons unknown to me since glare and power consumption are the two biggest hits I see against plasmas.

    While I was in the middle of a two week argument with BB over the Toshiba my wife and I went out and bought a Samsung 40" LCD, which is now in the upstairs bedroom. Another great set.

    On top of this, I have been buying large format displays as the IT Manager for a bank...I have about 2 dozen 40"+ displays out there and they run the gamut of brands...Viewsonic, LG, Sony, Panasonic, Samsung. I won't buy anything bu panasonics and Samsungs anymore...the others have never measured up in either quality, price or (in the miniscule case of the Sony), reliability.

    So figure out your set size, educate yourself on whihc features adn dazzling gewgaws are your must haves and go find your best deal on a new in box (no demo models) set at your favorite electronics store. Make sure to check out the widescreen functions in the store before you commit. Some brands use different widescreen scaling on 4:3 pictures. My Samsung (and most others I think simply stretch the image horizontally to make a braodcast tv picture fit the screen, wheras the Panasonic stretches the edges more than the center. Sounds weird, but it works really well...the people in the middle are less fat looking on the Panasonic and I never notice the different scaling unless I'm watcing a stock ticker or something.

    Go here for good info and probably some model specific owner experiences. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/index.php

    Personally I avoid extended warranties...its a roll of the dice, but the odds are very much in your favor to get a good set. Still, someone has to get the bum set. The odds are good that you'll have a failure in the first year or after 5 years, with the odds always going up over time that you'll have a problem...just like any other device really. For what its worth, only one of my Sony's at the bank has EVER even hiccuped in the 5 years since I deployed the original 18 sets. Bad power supply control board. All the others are still vibrant and crisp and run constantly...I'd say they all are in use at least 60 hours a week...some go over 100 hours a week.

    To answer one of your earliest questions, dynamic contrast, see this thread on highdeforum.com http://www.highdefforum.com/flat-panel-tvs/58167-what-dynamic-contrast-ratio.html

    IMHO the picture quality on plasma still cannot be beat by LCD, at least not at similar price points...given the same HD signal the plasma will generaly spekaing always have the superior picture. I'm not talking sharpenss here, rather I'm talking about color quality, specifically the production of black. Plasmas can produce a true black and LCD's cannot...they get close, but the black is really just a dep shade of grey. You'll probably never notice it unless you have them side by side (like I do), just throwing it out there.

    Lastly I would check with the store you purchased it from and ask about their return policy. Most places have an instore 30 day defect return, Best Buy has a 30 day "I didn't like it" return policy. They'll give you a ahrd time about it, but you cna return a perfectly good tv within the first 30 days and exchange it for a different one. Sometimes no matter how much research and planning you do, you just don't realize that you bought the wrong product for you until you get it home and put it on the wall...you may find for example that a 37" tv is far smaller than you really thoguht it would be and that you might be alot happier with a 42" set instead. I'm advocating trying to screw the store over or anyhting like that, just saying you never know...and when you're dropping 800-1000 of your hard earned dollars on a tv set you better make sure you're really happy with it.

    Sorry to drone on an on. I'll stop now. Hope it been more helpful than tearfully boring.
  6. WoodMann

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    Thanks mayhem. I know Samsungs are good. I'm also kinda shy toward plasma's; I know they can't be matched by an LCD- but they eat alot of power and make alot of heat................
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  8. WoodMann

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    Thanks for the forum links, mayhem; really clears up the dynamic and static contrast issue. I did a looksee comparison awhile back and was fortunate enough to find 2 Sony sets side by side; a Sony KDL-40S3000 which has 8000:1 CR and is a 720P and a Sony KDL-40V3000 with 16000:1CR and is a 1080P. A basketball game was on, and, quite frankly I couldn't see anything better on the 1080 set than the 720 set, even the contrast of the floor colors was a bit better on the 720 set......
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    Unless you're watching a blu-ray disc at full HD on two sets side by side 720p adn 1080p at a short distance you will probably not notice the difference.

    For what its worth, Dell is running a sale on Sharp Aquos sets right now. While I've enver had one myself I've heard nothign but praise online from owners for the Aquos series.

    See spoofee.com and slickdeals.net for daily specials on stuff in general...there is usually at least one HDTV special a week on there...might save you a hundred bucks and get you into a slightly better set for the same scratch.

    Sharp Aquos 42" LCD42D65U 1080P LCD HDTV for $789.57 Shipped
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    Hmm- sounds pretty good. Y'know, I'm pretty bent on Sony...................
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    I just bought a 42" LG 1080 and it looks and works real nice. The sound is not the best but the picture is great!!. Got it for 899.00 at a store here called rosa's very nice TV. It was a nite mare looking for a TV not like looking for a tube one that was easy...
  12. WoodMann

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    Cool. I just gotta button up the quad, then I'll be ready to deal, but in the meantime; look and learn..............
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    hi guys I need a 26"lcd for the camper, whats the best brand?
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    How often do you use it, what are you prepared to spend, are you open to a service contract, what do you want to hook it up too, etc?

    Dish? Camper site hook up?

    Inquiring minds wanna know :coolsmile:

    Need more input ;-)
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    we use it about 12 times a year, am only going to use the camper antenna,looking for best price for quality tv,nascar races and rainy days
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    I did a lot of research before purchasing a Mitsubishi DLP. I started out wanting an LCD but, for the size, price and picture quality, the DLP was the one for me. Most of the manufacturers are getting away from DLP but, they will be serviceable for years to come. I'm not not trying to sway you from buying an LCD, just saying do as much research as you can. Definitely do as others have said and visit the HD forums. Those folks are always willing to answer questions...even the stupid ones I ask.
    Another thing to consider are the component inputs on the TV, like how many HDMI inputs it has or whether or not it has a USB port.
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    thank you for the advice
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    Sorry Wrench, I forgot all about this thread !!!

    I don't think a DLP is gonna work in a camper, unless it's a BIG camper.

    A 26" is hard from my standing, most have exchange/return/manufacturer depot repairs. Alot of manufacturers have carry in service from 32" and down to 26".

    I'd stay away from the cheaper brands, like Ilo, Vizio, Funai, Sylvania, Philips, Magnavox, Dynex, etc, unless you get a screaming deal. There isn't alot of parts availability for repairs, etc. Alot of exchanges on these brands under service contracts.
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    One more burning question; can ya get by with a quicker response time in lieu of the 120 or 240Mhz................
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    Beat this to death one more time; do modern day plasma's really eat alot of power like say the older ones did.........................
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    Indeed. And they shut down a Phillips service shop (telephone help, etc.) in FL around the same time. Laid off a bunch of people. I know one of them. He's really scrimping to get by, and jobs are hard to come by. They offshored it, as I remember.
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    yeah- we're off- shoring everything these days. Somebody tell me again how this NAFTA thing was supposed to help us? And 'free' trade.......................
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    Depends on your definition of "a lot: . . . the new ones (especially Energy Star) are better and appear to run cooler than the old plasma TVs, but if you compare them to similarly sized LCDs they do consume more energy. It is perhaps obvious, but the larger you go the more power you consume. That said, for the great picture it's a small "sacrifice" I'm willing to make . . . the other night my wife and I watched "Changling" and honestly with the Blu-Ray and large plasma TV for a few minutes it honestly felt like I was at the movie theatre . . . minus the sticky floors and kids talking behind me. :) ;)
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    THanks, jake. I'm starting to appreciate plasmas more as I'm learning; and for their far superior resolution I wonder if it is such a big sacrifice................
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    As I mentioned in late January my wife surprised me with a 50-inch Panasonic plasma TV (1080p) . . . honestly I would have been quite happy to have been surprised with a 42-inch 780 p. plasma . . . that said, it's been over two months since I wrote that note and three months since I've had the TV and all I can say is that I am very happy with this TV . . . football games were fantastic (I was using a 32 inch CRT HDTV before and it was good . . . this was just bigger and better), OTA broadcasts are fantastic, I don't have HD for satellite (too cheap I guess) but the picture is still more than fine and Blu-Ray DVD . . . whoa Momma . . . as I said . . . add on a half decent sound system and it's like being at the movies . . . I very much look forward to getting my Netflix Blu-Ray DVDs in the mail and in fact I think I may be able to watch Quantum of Solace tonight.
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