In the past, i have commented that i am one of those scoopers. I dont want to hijack the PE thread, so here it goes. First, i dont use the ashpan, i just find that its easier to scoop it. I found that it was stil dusty when i was using the broom to sweep the ashes in the slots to go down. Mabye this is a function of hearthstone stoves and there ashpans, mabey its a poor design. Any hearthstone users out there using there ash pans? Im going to crack mine open today, its been about 2 years since i have cleaned it out, heck the stove still has ashes from last season in it. I am going to try it this year, i will use the ash pan so i can have a more rounded opinion. Of course i have a few questions, 1) my stove burns alot better with about a inch of ash in it, so i woulnd clean it out completly, do you? 2) If you run your stove 24/7 how are you brushing it down? My brush would melt, in the deep ash bed there is always some hot coals, not enough for start up but enough to burn a brush, 3) If cleanleness is a issue, what happens when you dump your ash pan in the ash bucket? I can see the plume of ash now. If you dont dump it by the stove, do you walk through your house with it? I would think that would be a mess too. I know this topic has been talked about in the past, but lets re-kindle it for the new season and the new users.