I understand that when you pull the ash-pan on a PE Summit that the ashes are in there already wrapped in a foil bundle and strapping tape with a loop on top to pick it up.
Thats right , but its just a little package because it only burns two logs all winter. The P.E. Summit also cleans its self and the rest of the house when you are gone.BrotherBart said:I understand that when you pull the ash-pan on a PE Summit that the ashes are in there already wrapped in a foil bundle and strapping tape with a loop on top to pick it up.
I forget what stove your burning..... can you remind me?Rhonemas said:With my unit, cleaning out the ash exposes the bottom soapstone to get charged by the fire. Over its course the fire heats up the soapstone and covers the bottom in ash partially insulating it so it stays hot. On reload, I clean the ash off exposing the hot stone, lay my fresh wood on top of that, and it's a dream to get the fire going and up to speed now that the fresh wood is sitting on probably 300F+ stone. I don't get as quick response and up to speed when I reload on top of ash.
My feeling is ash helps the first fire get up to speed because it insulates the bottom from being able to sap heat out of it but hinders subsequent reloads because without the bottom having heated up it can't contribute to getting the next fire going, and you inhibit one side of your unit from transferring heat into the living area. Without ash it hinders the first fire and but any subsequent fires start quickly and get into higher efficiencies faster. I get better fires and more heat into my living area by dumping the ashes each fire, but I've always stated that first fire from a cold start is rather annoying. Now, someone will probably mention having the bottom insulated means the fire inside will be hotter so you get higher burn efficiencies which puts more heat into the living area but, there's a certain balance between burn efficiency and transfer efficiency we dance with. Burning at max air gives me the highest burn efficiencies sure but certainly doesn't give the heat much time to sit around and transfer into my living area before heading out the flue. Likewise, turning the air down too much and I don't get the burn efficiencies that will let me transfer more heat into the living area. Some of us use thermometers, others experience, but we learn where that balance is between getting the best burn efficiency and the most heat into the living area. That balance is better when the ash isn't insulating the bottom for me. Not to say for everyone, my unit is particularly sensative because it's a soapstone insert. I'm pretty sure inserts really feel the difference of the ash.
MountainStoveGuy said:I just figured out what was all over the bottem frame of my stove that i could not get off... fatwood drippings. Sometimes i use a sliver of fatwood to light the fatwood in the stove. I was just lighting my stove and i made a mess again!
Right now its 40's and raining, yesterday it snowed about 2000 feet above me, and less then a mile away. Summers over, at least up here!BrotherBart said:MountainStoveGuy said:I just figured out what was all over the bottem frame of my stove that i could not get off... fatwood drippings. Sometimes i use a sliver of fatwood to light the fatwood in the stove. I was just lighting my stove and i made a mess again!
It only made it to 91 here today so we decided not to light our stove.