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About time to pull the trigger on the stove... need PIPE help too!

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Big Donnie Brasco, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. Big Donnie Brasco

    Big Donnie Brasco Feeling the Heat

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    Well, I need to get going on buying a stove AND pipe!!!
    I have been spitting wood and I have nothing to burn it in! I am on a "new baby budget" so the stove I THINK i have settled on is the Drolet Myriad. I still need a hearth, and I need some input on PIPE!

    I will be going straight up about 5 feet in the main room, then about 8 feet in an UN-finished attic.
    6" pipe, NO bends, and it will come out just inches from the peak of my roof.

    I am in DESPERATE need of ANY input... I have no idea of cost, would love to get some ideas as to where to get good pipe on a budget!

    Thank you!

    Don

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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    If the peak is close, the class A flue pipe will need to be at least 2 ft higher higher than the peak. The stove connector can be single-wall (18" min. clearance) or double-wall (6" clearance). You will then need a ceiling support box. This is where you will transition to class A pipe. On the attic side you will need an insulation shield. All pieces should be from the same mfg. Tip: When framing the ceiling support box, use long deck screws instead of nail for the studs to box it in. That will save you popping nailheads in the sheetrock below. Here is a basic diagram of what you'll need.

    roof-class-a.jpg 10-3-2 rule.JPG

    Download the pipe manufacturer's installation guide. That will be helpful. For a good source of piping I have had good service from www.dynamitebuys.com. Ask for Sean. He knows his stuff and is helpful. Here is an article too: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/installing_a_woodstove

    Note that you will need to have a hearth with a minimum of R=1.0 insulation value for the Myriad.
  3. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    You are gonna find the best deal on class a pipe at menards. Super-vent is the brand. Make sure that it exits the roof far enough below the peak to allow room for the flashing. On a 6 pitch you need about 13" to the center pipe from the peak.
  4. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    I only have one thing to add - MY personal pref is double wall from stove to sunlight. Simply not a fan of single wall.
  5. ethanhudson

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    ^^^ This is true. I was going to say...
    is a bad idea, you need enough room for the flashing, you DO NOT want to try and flash it over the peak. You'll have to get a custom piece and you'll have a hard time sealing it up.
  6. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    Why settle for a Drolet, with used Jotuls to be had? ;)
  7. Big Donnie Brasco

    Big Donnie Brasco Feeling the Heat

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    Hey Jags, what is the thinking behind that?
    Since I know ZERO, I am NOT questioning you, just trying to get smarter! :)
  8. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    With double-wall there is less heat loss from the pipe. The flue gases stay hotter so the pipe stays cleaner. The stove will also draft better in mild weather with a warmer flue.
  9. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    The further you get from New England, the harder used Jotuls are to find. I search pretty much constantly.
    Joful likes this.
  10. Big Donnie Brasco

    Big Donnie Brasco Feeling the Heat

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    Find me one in my price range and I am all over it!!!!!!!! :)
  11. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    Yeah, you're gonna be at the minimum for chimney height, so you'll need all the help you can get with draft.

    We bought stuff at Menard's the other night, and the price jumped $13 for a three foot section of 6". Dang it.

    The long telescoping section of double wall connector is special order, but they ship to you for 'free'.
  12. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    And just for the record, the double wall connector pipe from menards is a PItA!!! It would be worth the money to get Dura-Vent DVL from a hearth store!
  13. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    Why? I've uesd three of them, and just got the fourth, so I guess I don't know any better.
  14. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    I guess not. Compared to Dura-Vent, or excell, it's awful! No offense.
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    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    None taken. Just curious. The stove adapters are kinda janky.

    At least I have the Excel flashing ;)
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    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    Ohh, right on. Metal roof?
  17. Pallet Pete

    Pallet Pete Guest

    AMEN !
  18. Pallet Pete

    Pallet Pete Guest

    Agreed they appear and disappear in a matter of a day or less here. There are lots of wood burners in these woods !

    Pete
  19. Pallet Pete

    Pallet Pete Guest

    Also you can get closer to a combustible surfaces with double wall pipe. That didn't stop me from staying 2.5' away from any wall though lol.
  20. Joful

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    Now that you mention it, I did notice the same, when I was searching for my second. Every time a nice deal popped up on ebay or c'list, it was in New England!
  21. Big Donnie Brasco

    Big Donnie Brasco Feeling the Heat

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    Jeff -

    are you talking about the entire length from the stove to sunlight?
  22. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    I just replaced my single wall pipe with menards double wall and I would recommend it! I like the added safety of the double wall and each fitting is much more secure and solid feeling. I also like the fact that I can put a stove pipe probe in my flue now and read actually flu temps rather than surface temps of the pipe from single wall.


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    I also added a 3' section of pipe to my chimney this winter. I found the best deal at tractor supply and the supervent matched up with my existing pipe.



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    Like everyone else said... Def stick with the same brand stove pipe, support box and chimney pipe all the way thru. All of your connections will fit better and be easier to install.

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