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  1. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    A guy in the automotive recycling business sent this to me.

    Freaking CRAZY!



    Happy New Year Everyone ...this one too good not to send out


    This happened in Regina Saskatchewan Tuesday morning (29 November 2011)

    I guess. Here is what the owner said:

    So my time almost came to an end this morning... I'm very lucky to be alive.
    I had an acetylene bottle in my truck, the valve was bumped so slightly and
    Over night the truck filled with the gas. I noticed the smell, and opened
    the doors to air out the truck. I drove the truck out of the garage to get
    some more air movement. I went to roll the pass side window down and as soon
    as I touched the power windows. BAM - with me in the truck. I lost all
    hearing out of my right ear and got a scratch on the back of my head. All
    things considering, I'm alive.


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  2. oldspark Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 16, 2010
    5,117 posts
    North West Iowa
    The guy might be alive but I think his brain is dead!
  3. jc64 New Member

    joined: Dec 31, 2011
    16 posts
    Oregon
    Good to see that if your truck blows up with you in it, the air bags will deploy. :coolsmile:

    jc
  4. RNLA Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 18, 2010
    761 posts
    I know too much about this to have done anything but call the fire department. ANY spark even a static electrical spark, like the ones from your clothes, will set off a saturated air environment, Especially acetylene! I think any one can make a mistake but this was not the correct action to take. Looks like Toyota made the FJ to come apart in the event of interior explosions. Kind of like a crumple zone but different....
  5. bioman Burning Hunk

    joined: Dec 25, 2010
    196 posts
    mo
    Might wanta screw the lid on that bottle next time ! that'l leave a mark.
  6. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,976 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    Something doesn't jive here. First of all, you most likely wouldn't survive the pressure from the explosion and even if you did, why would the airbag deploy? This looks more like a rear impact and roll-over. (Rear tailgate is smashed IN and roof is completely gone?) There's no charring, no melted plastic, hell the elect tape and plastic loom is intact on the wiring harnesses.
  7. JustWood Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 14, 2007
    3,190 posts
    Arrow Bridge,NY
    I was thinking the same thing.
    Acetylene valves are inset with no way of opening the valve unless the handle was left on for transport. If that was the case the guy was a moron for leaving it on the valve.
  8. yooperdave Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 26, 2010
    874 posts
    u.p.
    maybe just another case of finding some pics and adding whatever story you'd like, then posting it on the web?

    first thoughts were-why is there no charring from the gas explosion? but then i figured it out....
    tiger woods ex-wife got ahold of this vehicle with a golf club!
  9. rwhite Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 8, 2011
    409 posts
    SW Idaho
    A real picture and real scenario does not always make a real story if they don't match up. I'm calling BS.
  10. gzecc Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 24, 2008
    2,911 posts
    NNJ
    I can believe it. Things aren't always so obvious. I can see some internal to external pressure damage, but is it possible that there wouldn't be at least a flash over?
  11. quads Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    2,747 posts
    Central Sands, Wisconsin
    The roof appears to be caved IN, not out. I'm guessing this was some sort of a rollover accident, possibly end for end. I would like to see a pic of the front end, but the only pic showing it slightly is with the guy oddly hugging it and blocking it from view. But even in that pic it looks like the hood has a larger than normal gap and does not line up properly. I think the front end, particularly the passenger front corner, also has damage which is being concealed in the pics. It would explain the airbag deployment too, and the fact that the dash is smashed on the driver's side yet appears to be untouched on the passenger side (no passenger on the day of the accident). If it had been an explosion from within with enough force to destroy the dash in front of the driver, driver would have easily been destroyed too! But so would the dash on the passenger side, probably even more so.
  12. madrone Minister of Fire

    Not always. Many acetylene cylinders come with a valve handle attached. Depends on size and style. All the ones I use at work have a valve handle, and it would be easy to nudge it open. In that case, however, he should have at least had the cap on to prevent bumping the valve.

    When I teach welding classes, I stress that one should never, ever carry cylinders inside a vehicle, not even the trunk. It's just stupid. Explosions are one thing, but suffocation is the more likely horrible accident. There's a lot of unbreathable gas crammed in a cylinder. Welding oxygen tanks included.

    I have to agree that I smell a huge pile of BS on this story though.
  13. rottiman Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 23, 2009
    1,082 posts
    Ontario Canada
    Very simple, that much Acetylene firing off would have burned or melted something. Don't see either one of those conditions present. PURE BS< nothing more,nothing less............
  14. Flatbedford Minister of Fire

    The driver side door has also been strapped shut for transport. What ever happened to this vehicle didn't happen at the yard where it was photographed
  15. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,530 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Not saying it couldn't be a true story . . . but I have to say even before I saw everyone else's comments I was thinking that something doesn't quite match up.
    I couldn't quite say what was making me wonder about things . . . it wasn't the lack of smoke or fire damage since it is entirely possible that there could be an explosion with no resulting fire or smoke damage.

    However, I couldn't figure out what was making me think that things were off until I took a second and third look . . . and that's when I noticed what seems to be a discrepancy in the story and pics. The piece of sheet metal on top of the Toyota and a little bit missing from the driver side rear passenger door . . . again . . . not saying this could not be a true story with true pics because I have seen stranger things . . . but the paint missing from body parts on the outside of the vehicle seems odd . . . to me it seems more consistent with a roll-over or good smash up scraping paint off vs. an explosion removing paint.
  16. Corey Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    2,014 posts
    Midwest
    It's very interesting that many of the body panels are blown 'off' the frame - while the frame itself remains relatively intact. Any type of collision would have just crushed the body panels in place. It's as if the space between the metal outer skin and the inner panels blew up - pretty much what you'd expect in an explosion.

    Either way, there is no doubt acetylene is explosive. This article quotes 'acetylene balloons' - though most likely 'acetylene-oxygen' balloons. Any farm kid knows how to light the cutting torch, adjust the acetylene/oxygen mix to the 'perfect' level, then shut off the acetylene to snuff out the flame. Turn it back on and you're ready to fill balloons, 5 gallon buckets, or what ever.

    http://www.esdjournal.com/static/Kansas/dauer truck.htm

    We used to have an oxy-acetylene 'cannon' which would launch a 2-liter bottle several hundred yards and did our fair share of balloons, buckets, etc. At one point, a 5 gallon bucket of oxy-acetylene mix topped with a gallon milk jug of gasoline made a mushroom cloud big enough the 'neighbors' came up from 1/2 mile away thinking a propane tank had exploded. Ahhh, the good ole days!
  17. oldspark Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 16, 2010
    5,117 posts
    North West Iowa
  18. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    I own a salvage yard and personally know the guy who send me the email. I don't have a reason not to believe him. The pictures were taken at his yard where he towed it to.

    The pictures do seem quite strange though. Especially the blown air bags.

    I look at wrecked cars all day and have never seen anything like this.

    It's amazing he is alive.
  19. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,530 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    The fact that you know the guy tends to make me believe this . . . even though things look odd . . . as I said . . . I've seen strange things before . . . sometimes things are not what we expect or what we have seen in the past.
  20. prairiefire Member

    joined: Dec 16, 2008
    101 posts
    rural saskatchewan canada
  21. wetwood Member

    joined: Dec 3, 2009
    175 posts
    Don't know about the Toyota but a few decades ago our high school shop teacher (who was kinda goofy) one weekend crawled in the back of his personal station wagon with a cutting torch and accidentally cut the hoses. The resulting flash fire burned off most of his eyebrows and mustache, his facial skin pealed off like a bad sunburn. I wish I could remember what he was doing in his station wagon with the torch but he knew he uuck fped and his telling of the incident had us laughing till our sides hurt. It gave us a new respect for acetylene though. can't remember for sure but I think it did singe the interior of the car.
  22. Flatbedford Minister of Fire

  23. woodchip Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 6, 2010
    1,390 posts
    Broadstone England
    Must admit, if an explosion enough to rip side panels off really were to occur, I would have expected the wind shield to blow out completely rather than shatter.

    The lack of any burn marks or scorch marks also seems to point to something other than an explosion.

    I've seen a few thing blow up, and have never seen anything without any visible signs of heat whatsoever.

    My initial thoughts..............BS.......

    But why make up the story?........ ;-)
  24. Eatonpcat Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 24, 2011
    2,061 posts
    Eaton Township, Ohio
    That's a good point, Why make up a story, No matter what happened, it had to be a good story!! Probably the truth!
  25. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,515 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Oxy/act in a tater gun is downright wicked...or so I hear. :red:

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