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Almost had a great deal.

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by BrianN, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    The price does seem high, based on having paid for 3 liner installs last year, but I don't know the particulars of your install.

    One will often under-size the pipe if the chimney is very tall. Draft at the stove is a combination of height and pipe cross-section, and in general, the more you have of each, the stronger your draft will be. The hazards of going too large in pipe diameter are insufficient air velocity in the pipe (cooling and creosote build-up), and too much draft for your stove (over-firing).

    If your chimney is the usual 16 - 25 feet, you'd better stick with an 8" pipe for an 8" stove. If your chimney height is over 30 feet, then reducing to 7" may be warranted, but I'd take that advice directly from someone who has experience with a BK King.

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  2. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    Not sure what the reason would be to use 7" pipe. It's an oddball size as far as flue collars go, so perhaps an installer has a supply to get rid of?

    I installed 21' (minus a few inches at the joints), with 6ish feet of double walled connector, for my sister's King. It drafts like crazy, but it works perfectly. I can hear air rushing thru the thermostat when it is wide open, but the stove is very controllable. It will go from a box full of hell to lights out dark in seconds, with a twist of the knob.

    I'd stick with what is spec'd by the manufacturer.
  3. alforit

    alforit Feeling the Heat

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    Does that quote include the stove and the blowers ?
  4. BrianN

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    The reason for the 7" pipe was, we were going to go with the Princess (which takes a 6" pipe), but, if we decided that the Princess wasn't cutting it, they would upgrade us to the King. Upon doing that, we would just have to replace the stove, and not the pipe.
    Sounded good at the time, but now, we are going straight to the King.
  5. BrianN

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    That is just the chimney (Stove purchased from some where else), installed and certified.
  6. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    Some interesting reading from two members, Skidooer and phatline, about the Princess and 7" flues http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/...erformance-thread-everything-bk.93182/page-21. There are several posts thru the thread.

    There isn't a lot of difference in heat output between the two stoves. A lot of folks with the Princess already had a 6" chimney. I started new, and found a great deal on a King, so the 8" pipe wasn't an issue for me.
  7. BrianN

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    Look what I got today :). Holy man am I ever excited.
    So, I am going to have to go get the chimney this weekend, and, decided that I am going to have to do the install myself. Instead of having professionals do it in one day, it will probably take me a week, but, I will be saving $800.
    The reason I am having to do it myself is, I have two dealers getting me quotes, both are to include install. One has taken nearly a week to get back to me, the other said he would get back to me within 24 hours. That was on Saturday. So, if they can't get back to me in a timely manner, are they really that reliable?
    BKK 1.jpg BKK 2.jpg

    So, a word of warning. Be prepared for a barrage of install questions.
    Actually, it shouldn't be too bad. Going through one wall, then straight up through one attic and one roof eave.
    It will probably be another two weeks before I get to get started on it though, so, I get to just look at it out in the garage until I get to bring it in.
  8. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    Congrats.

    So, $2200? That rocks. I paid $2450 for mine here in Michigan, but it sat in a showroom for five years, and they really wanted it gone.

    You can always push it outside, shove a piece of pipe in it, and light a few fires. It will help to burn the paint in and keep some stink out of the house.
  9. BrianN

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    Well, finally.
    After over a month of getting quotes, I only had one company come back with a quote for parts and install. I decided not to do it myself, as I have no time, and would rather pay the $$$ to have it done.
    Anyways, in a town of 4000 people, there is one wood stove shop, a sheet metal shop, who also installs fireplaces/woodstoves. And went to a few places in a town an hour away. Long story short, after all the phone calls and foot work, we came up with one quote. Seems like no one wants to work around here. I had two companys not even get me the quote that they said they would. I had one pellet stove company tell me he thought the job was too big for him (at least he was honest, but, I had to call him 4 days after he said he would get back to me)
    Now, hopefully, this week, we will have some one show up and install the stove, and will be able to have the house warmed up. Still getting to -5C here over night.
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    Okay, so the day has finally come. Tomorrow, I am getting my "KING" installed. And, by the looks of it, I may even get some burn time on it this year. :)
    Temps are dropping to -4C tomorrow night, but, hitting above 4C after that.
    At least I will have enough dry, seasoned wood for this year. Starting this weekend, I will be going out and getting wood for next year.
    Good thing about northern BC, lots of dead, standing beetle kill wood. Nicely seasoned, dry and ready to go for next year.
    I am so excited, no more annoying fan blaring all night from the pellet stove, and no more paying cash $$ to heat the house, just some casual labour. I'm loving it.
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    AHHHHH, so warm, and quiet. No pellet stove fan blasting all night.
    Went to bed last night, and it was 23C in our room. Although, it is up to 5C outside. But, again, no fan noise.
    So far, so happy. Well, with the heat. Not too happy with the a part of the install.
    Oh well. It's warm. Now, time to get out and start adding to my fire wood collection. Oh, and to try to figure out why my glass is so dirty already.

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