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Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by charly, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. Backwoods Savage

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    Charly, do not rake the coals toward the door. Just move them toward the front of the stove.

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  2. Backwoods Savage

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    Charly, I would definitely not engage the cat sooner! If anything, wait a bit longer; but not past 250. Also, there should be no need to have the draft open 3/4. Once you engage the cat, turn it down. I'd suggest trying first at a setting of 1.5 or perhaps 2 at most. Even at 2, you will not want to leave it at that setting very long. I'm guessing this time of the year you will want somewhere in the 1 to 1.5 setting once you engage the cat. Also, once you get the draft turned down, do expect that the flue temperature will also come down some but that is not a concern at this point.
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  3. charly

    charly Guest

    When I said 3/4 quarters I meant less then 1, not 3/4 quarters of the whole range. With my draft I think I could run the stove at .5 . Setting it at 1 even seemed high, like I was wasting my burn time.
  4. Backwoods Savage

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    Good Charly. I just read that it was at 3/4 (or set on 3). There are some times we run at .5 but not often. .75 is more normal but at this time of the year, 1 is a bit more normal. As the outdoor air cools, then the draft gets shut down more.
  5. charly

    charly Guest

    Gotch ya! I'm really liking this stove Dennis. Much, much nicer then the steel QuadraFire 5700. Nice smooth heat. I love that you don't get those variations in heat, just a solid smooth driving heat.
  6. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    Charly, the best is yet to come! Once winter gets here you will really fall in love with it then and yes, the even heat is nice. I always hated being too hot for a while then looking for a shirt, etc. Now I usually wear a t-shirt all the time in the house.
  7. charly

    charly Guest

    Dennis,
    Had my stove on 1, no cat glowing. 325 stove top and 400 flue gas. Just turned it down to .5 and bingo, cat took off. Is 1 allowing to fast of a draft for the cat to work that .5 lit the cat?
    Charlie
  8. charly

    charly Guest

    Been out hunting since 6 am, 27 degrees this morning,,, the heat isn't feeling too bad;)
  9. Backwoods Savage

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    I don't think that would be the case. The cat was probably right at that point of turning red. Also, never forget that the cat will not always glow red but it will still work. As that cat ages, it will take a little longer each time to glow but if you watch the stove temperature you can surely tell it is working. I recall one time checking the cat every so often until the stove top got to 600 and never saw any red. Stove still worked just like it is supposed to.
  10. charly

    charly Guest

    OK, that makes sense, and will also save my neck;lol
  11. charly

    charly Guest

    Dennis,
    Notice my flue runs about even with my stove top temp. Too much draft? Do I need a damper? Stove and flue are at 450 . Hard to believe I have to much draft,, I go out through the wall and up a 22 ft insulated liner. I'll have to watch and see when the stove hits 500 if the flue temp is still matching up. Just don't want to waste heat up the flue. Guess I'll just lower the draft if need be. A learning curve for sure.
  12. Pallet Pete

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    Charly that is one of the best looking installs I have seen. Very well done congratulations on the stove.

    Pete
  13. ddddddden

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    Charly, these steel cats are 'hypersensitive' when new, so they will light off at the drop of a hat. . .don't expect that to last. Doh!

    I mention this so that you won't get into the habit of engaging too early. OTOH, on cold/cool starts, you may want to go by the flue temp to determine when to engage, as the temp of the stone top will lag behind.

    Yes, once you close the bypass and the cat burn settles in, your flue temp should be lower than the stovetop temp. I run a thermometer on the appliance adapter that connects my flex liner to the stove collar. Even this close to the stove, flue temp usually runs at least 100° lower than the stove top, when the cat is doin it's thing.
  14. charly

    charly Guest

    Thank you, just kept it old school simple.
  15. charly

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    I don't want to add a damper if it's pulling too much heat up the pipe, I think I'll just close my draft more if it's drafting that well. See how that works. Stove has never smoked out the door when reloading either, not a bit.
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    Yeah, I think you would need a flue damper only if the stove were still burning too high after turning the draft control down to zero. I would say you still have some room to work with the stove's air control before worrying about putting a damper in the pipe. I don't recall many, if any, Fireview owners reporting the need for a pipe damper. That seems to be more common with non-cat stoves that can't be turned down as much, and it doesn't seem to be all that common with non-cats.
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  17. charly

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    Well the good news,,, I've let the Esse cook stove go out, because,,,,,,,,,, amazingly the Fireview is showing off and heating the whole house, I know it's not 20 out, but 40 degrees, I'm impressed. Stove has only been to 350-375 so far.
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    looks nice, congatulations
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    Going to break your heart on Monday...will be too hot to light a fire!
  20. charly

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    What will I do?;lol Cut some more firewood ?
  21. Todd

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    Great looking install, makes me miss my old Fireview. What kind of thermometer is that in your pipe? If those temps are internal I think your fine. External pipe temps will be lower than stove top temps but internals are closer to the stove top. Keep playing around with the air settings and you will find your sweet spots, I usually ran mine a little bit under #1 and it would give me a good 10-12 hour burn.
  22. Woody Stover

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    That's lookin' mighty good, charly! :cool: I had a hard time choosing between the charcoal and the metallic blue but went with the lighter-colored blue in this setting. It looks like light grey, with maybe just a hint of blue...not like the pic on the website.

    I've got 17' of insulated liner in a masonry chimney, stove is rear-vented into a tee, then up, so one 90*. 22 insulated feet is apparently enough to overcome three 90s...
    RIght now, primary air at .75, 450 above the combustor, 300 on the tee snout, 175 on the vertical section of the tee. I put a damper in when installing, but never use it. I'll probably remove it when I get a chance...
    When I want a low burn, I can cut the air all the way. I'll need to burn down some coals at the end though...don't like shoveling out valuable cordage.

    EDIT:
    Just shot the bottom of the snout...160. I guess heat rises. ;lol
  23. gmule

    gmule Feeling the Heat

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    To me it feels like sitting in the sun on a cool day.
    have you seen the blue ghost flames yet?
  24. Woody Stover

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    Are you talking about the "ribbon burn?" Looks like a thin, flexible, undulating ribbon of flame just below the air wash at the top of the glass. I've seen it a few times in the FV. Quite a bit in the Keystone. Lots of intermittent faint flames chasing each other around in the box, if that's what you mean...

    Very 3-D....hard to capture in a pic.
    [​IMG]
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  25. gmule

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    Yeah those are them. I like the ones that ignite in the air a few inches above the wood

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