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  1. Eric Johnson Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    5,703 posts
    Central NYS
    Looks suspiciously like the Black Bear Boiler, which is made about 100 miles to the north.

    http://www.adobeboiler.com

    These are both water tube boilers with a huge refractory mass to store heat, and very little water in the boiler.

    The flip side of gasification technology, such as that seen in the Tarm and EKO boilers, involves firetubes and 40 or 50 gallons of water around the firebox and refractory chamber. I believe the Garn and Greenwood are also firetube affairs, but with much higher water capacity than the Tarm/EKO design.

    Anybody have a preference?
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  2. Andre B. New Member

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  3. slowzuki Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 1, 2007
    476 posts
    New Brunswick, Canada
  4. Burn-1 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 13, 2006
    443 posts
    Lakes Region, NH
    It actually looks a rebadged Seton from Montana, )or Seton is a licensed model from some common ancestor). Because the diagram is virtually identical.

    Seton diagram

    Seton appears to have been acquired by this company which has a range
    of boilers. BurnsBest

    So it looks like the technology might be being licensed out.

    Another one I found which looks like it might be based on a GARN type
    large integrated tank is this one Turbo-Burn
  5. slowzuki Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 1, 2007
    476 posts
    New Brunswick, Canada
    Thanks Burn-1, the seton diagram was the one I was looking for, the internal layout is similar to greenwood's. Seton also licenses to an ebay company that sells them in a different colour.
  6. Eric Johnson Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    5,703 posts
    Central NYS
    Wow, thanks guys for the links. Who knew? Looks like there might be a future in clean-burning central heat after all.

    BTW, my local Adobe dealer got right back to me with a price. The 220K btu/hr model is about $8,000 for the indoor model, delivered. For the outdoor configuration, add another $400.

    That big refractory chamber makes me a little nervous. The only review I've seen on the Greenwood is the guy who got his new one up and running, only to have a big crack develop in the refractory. He says the company sent him a can of Stovo and a putty knife. Or some such. You've probably seen the post if you've Googled Greenwood.
  7. KarlK Member

    joined: Nov 28, 2007
    76 posts
    Pa
  8. KarlK Member

    joined: Nov 28, 2007
    76 posts
    Pa
    Do you need water storage with the Adobe Boiler?
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