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Another wood ID ?

Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by cmurf70, Jun 18, 2013.

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  1. PA. Woodsman

    PA. Woodsman Minister of Fire

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    Scotty, do you get much Elm out your way? It seems to be very rare here for me for some reason.....

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  2. ScotO

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    Its kinda spotty around here.......but last year I got a really big red elm, it was a long dead standing snag. I have two American elms growing in my backyard......ones a nice sized tree..

    Dutch Elm Disease wiped a lot of them out.
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  3. Applesister

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    Doesnt walnut have more sapwood rings?
  4. StihlHead

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    +1 (deja vu all over again?)

    ...and not just because of the cookies. The bark, center wood, the whole pile of wood there in the photo screams black walnut. Smooth upper branch wood there on the right is typical of walnut. Its all from one tree, not multiple species. Black locust does not have as large a dark center in the wood, and BL has more of a vertical striped-white pattern to the bark, as well as a woven pattern to the bark which this wood doesn't have. Red elm has more of a red color to the center wood and more shaggy bark that peels up in places. If the color in the photo is not accurate, I would concede that it could be red elm... but from the photo I wood say that this is black walnut.

    I have cut tons of walnut... we leveled several orchards of walnut trees in Gilroy, CA when they were planting condos there in the 1970s. They were old white walnut orchards. White walnut is grafted onto black walnut root stock, and when they get old or there is a bad frost, the white walnut tops die off and the black root stock takes over. So when we cleared the orchards there were 20-30% black walnut stands there. We burned it for several years, along with apple and cherry from other orchards that we cleared for housing starts.
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    LOL
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    Apple may also have a very good call there, Siberian Elm or Red it is. THERE IS NO FREAKING BLACK WALNUT IN THAT PHOTO!!
  8. Locust Post

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    Way to let'em have it NR ;lol
  9. Ram 1500 with an axe...

    Ram 1500 with an axe... Minister of Fire

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    How about more pictures...
  10. Trilifter7

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    Closest match I can see from that pick is some kind of locust or walnut.
  11. Woody Stover

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    Yeah, and some real pics this time, not more Photoshop creations to drive us all batty. ;)
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    Looks like Red Elm I've processed here. All of it.
    It does look dark like that when fresh cut, but then look at the one dry round in the center with bark partly falling off & the heartwood has lost all its color. That is Elm. Look at the two tiny leaves on the twig sticking out of the stack above that round. Elm.
    It will should split waaay better than American elm & smell like a farm when split.
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  13. pyroholic

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    Next time should I just proclaim my statement to be fact even though I'm wrong?
  14. Hogwildz

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    ok, nrford, your welcome to your opinion, not sure how anyone would come up with Apple, Just shaking my head there.
    You have your opinion, I and others have ours. Of course, your wrong, but your entitled to be wrong. Seems all your training has failed you. Oh well, back to school there fella.
    And you can shove those caps up your arse! Sorry, you may know hard wood, but it ain't the burning type. And, anyone who goes out of their way to toot how much they know, usually don';t know jack. Just saying, in the trade yaknow? LMFAO
    Pyro, my statement was not towards you, but hey, if you take offense personally, maybe it should apply.
    Have at it fellers.
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  15. Hogwildz

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    Back to the original poster. The simple thing to do, is split some of that stuff up. And post some more photos.
    Either way, wood is wood, so burn it and enjoy the heat.
  16. Woody Stover

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    He's referring to Applesister's call, Siberian Elm. I think what's throwing us is the fact that the heartwood is really wet, making it look darker than it would if dry. If you look down in the stack of rounds, there's a dry one with the bark coming off and it looks dry and not dark at all. I haven't cut much Walnut but I recently stacked a small one (5" rounds.) It was dead standing, all the bark gone and the wood is totally dry, but the heartwood is still dark. The color of that dry round above is off for Red Elm, but that could just be the pic. Doesn't really look like Red Elm bark I see here, and not like Walnut bark I see here, either. I'm unfamiliar with Siberian Elm....

    But yeah, we need some split pics here soon or we're going to have to send out a mob with pitchforks. ;lol I'd like to see that dry round split. o_O
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    that ain't black walnut :mad:
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    I concur with Siberian Elm
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    Siberian Elm can literally drip with moisture. That will cause the darkened heart wood where as the dryer branches are much lighter in color.

    I also call Siberian.
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  20. Jags

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    And I believe we are done here.
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