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Basement vs. Living room for wood insert?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by emt1581, Jul 7, 2010.

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  1. daleeper

    daleeper Minister of Fire

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    Transferring would depend on both the insert and fireplace installed. In fact, you would need to check with your downstairs fireplace you now have to make sure it will allow an insert to be installed in it, but it does look like an insert would be your best option in the basement. Some of the older prefabricated fireplaces do not have the structural integrity to handle the insert weight, and sometimes opening clearances can be a problem.

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  2. begreen

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    A stove is very transferable. But it doesn't make a lot of sense to build a new fireplace just to house an insert. It would be much cheaper to put in a new hearth with a new freestanding stove, especially if the stove only needed a simple non-combustible surface for the hearth.

    If you like the idea of a stove, don't be constrained by the current, basement hearth. That hearth can be extended or a freestanding stove can be placed on the floor in front of the current hearth.
  3. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Most modern wood stoves are 6" pipe, some pellet stoves are 3".
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    If I had a man cave like that I would just heat that and let the rest of the family fend for them selves. :lol:
  5. begreen

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    :lol: LOL :lol:
  6. emt1581

    emt1581 Minister of Fire

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    Now THERE'S an idea!!! Me and Frank (my GSD) can chill (or warm up) downstairs and she can fend for herself. Then again she has a circulatory issue so that would be pretty painful if I shut off the controls/heat up there.

    -Emt1581
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    Well, if you're going to be stubborn about it, there's not much point in the 'Basement vs. Living Room' question. :p
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    Yes, I'm posting from a not-so-smart phone. If I don't click on 'submit' within ~ 90 sec, I lose my posting. If I want to post a longer msg, I have to do so with several edits. Doh! I missed your reply to my flue question because posted pics mess up my br0wser. . .when I try to view the last page of the thread, I get the last pic posted instead of the last msg. Is there a pic showing your chimney to have only a single flue, or are we still playing 'What if?'
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    Can tell it is the middle of the summer.
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    Oh I'm not being stuborn. I really appreciate all the help everyone's given me. It's just that I started this thread not knowing what the differences were between floors and such...now I have my answer, some homework to do, and I'll be able to make a more informed decision.

    THANKS!!:)

    -Emt1581
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    You'll lose the Man-cave as soon as your wife finds out how toasty that stove makes it. Trust me, they're all sisters, brotha!
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    Naaaahhh, "wood sistahs" would put a wood stove on the main floor, and be done with it ;-)
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    I would've lost my exclusive claim to that "man cave" just as soon as I tried to stake it. I never would have tried, anyway...it's too nice a space not to share with those I love...or even occasionally with some I don't love so much. My label for it wouldn't be "man cave", it'd be "family room". It's a great space, in which lots of good times can be had...even if (or especially if) it's co-ed. But, hey, that's just me (er...us). Rick
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    What I'd like to do is stock the bar (you can see it with those lovely bright orange stools), put a nice flat screen and some comfy furniture down there and some other goodies I won't mention here...and have my own retreat. If we put a hot tub in out on/next to the covered porch...all the better!

    -Emt1581
  15. begreen

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    Turn off the heat upstairs and you'll be retreating to the wood shed. :)
  16. btuser

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    Another thought would be where the combustion air is going to come from. Stoves/inserts in the basement usually have to compete with one or more fossil-burning appliances. Things can go really, really wrong.

    My plan would be for the wood stove for basement family room and a gas fireplace (which can be direct vented and easily done) for the living room. Natural gas is cheap (cheaper than cordwood in my area), and you wouldn't have to lug/store the wood upstairs.
  17. emt1581

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    Nah, I wouldn't really do that. But I gotta work on getting her turned on to the idea/look of a wood stove. It really does seem like our smartest bet, especially for the main level.

    I do have backups out the wazoo though due to her circulatory condition. I've got 2 large Budddy heaters with an adapter for the 20lb tanks and a LOT of propane on hand! I've got a bunch of space heaters and a generator to power them. I've got hand warmers, heater blankets, a bag full of instant heat packs...and the list goes on. It's safe to say she'll NEVER have to be cold. ;)

    -Emt1581
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    Things could be worse.

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    Read my earlier post on what the gas company said....they can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.

    I'm not understanding what you mean though. There's ZERO other "fossil fueled" devices in the house. Water heater and ALL appliances are electric. I just bought a riding mower tonight and I have a snow blower but those are out in the garage. So I'm not sure where you were going or what you meant with the fossil fuel comment.

    Thanks!

    -Emt1581
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    The first cold day you have that woodstove or insert cooking, she will be convinced. Hard to beat wood heat.
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    That's a good point. Off topic but what's a good price to pay for a cord? It's been over 10 years since my dad bought a cord so I have no clue. Is it dependent upon the area?

    Thanks!

    -Emt1581
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    WOW!!! Add a .223 instead of that lever gun and that would be the PERFECT man-cave!!!

    -Emt1581
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    He meant other appliances competing for combustion air. Keep on reading about basement installations and you will see what was meant. In your case, it might just be a clothes dryer and maybe a bathroom fan? Don't worry about it until you know it's an issue.
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    Till winter rolls around.
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    Ohhh ok. Yeah there'll be a clothes dryer and a bathroom fan in the basement and a few fans on each other level. I've never heard of this before. I'm still not understanding the risk/problem though...

    -Emt1581
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