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Best pellet price Ever, Even I was Amazed $8.90 / Bag

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by drizler, Jan 13, 2007.

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  1. GVA

    GVA Minister of Fire

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    Thanks for the clarification craig.
    I came up with those #s too on page 7, just using my bassakwards way of doing things.
    That 5600 BTU I went back and checked I figured that at 70% oops..
    Where were you 4 pages ago.....

    But in my checking I think that my conclusion on this whole thing was that the #s should be alittle bit lower for hardwood.....
    After all is the calculator for people looking to get off of fossil fuels or for the hardcore wood guy's that know that orange ossage is about 30mil BTU's

    Be right back with an edit....

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  2. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    NO, the key is that those variables matter, but the FUEL used does not. In other words, a Monitor kerosene stove burning at 20,000 BTU is going to do the same job as a Pellet or Wood stove - or gas stove in the same location at 20,000 BTU.

    So, you are correct that it is difficult to figure out how much area a particular stove might heat- but the cost per btu comparison is still accurate.
  3. seaken

    seaken Minister of Fire

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    Yes Putnum, exactly. While I find this argument interesting it really is not very appropriate to compare zone heaters with central heating systems. Pellet and wood stoves are zone heaters. Oil and gas are most often used in central systems. And every zone in every house is different and each person feels things differently. It's hard to call ones stove superior just because it burns a different fuel. There are way too many variables to consider. But, it's fun to argue.
  4. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    So, GVA, you are saying that a cord of seasoned hardwood does not average, say 3100 LBs at 8000 BTU/Lb? I think the moisture situation is corrected by the actual efficiency.

    Looking at:
    http://hearth.com/what/heatvalues.html

    yeah, maybe I should average 22 or 23 million BTU input for hardwoods. Oak has about 25, but mixed are probably less.
  5. GVA

    GVA Minister of Fire

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    wow you guy's are fast I didn't have time to put this in the other post.

    http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/techline/fuel-value-calculator.pdf

    This is what I was going by for the average of hardwoods, and I had found another that told what each one was for BTU's I have to go find that.
    EDIT
    I can't find it it was huge I should have posted it when I found it but here is another, it's a short list but I think some of the values could be added to the hearth value page.

    http://www.burnsbest.com/Info/woodvalue.php

    Another EDIT
    What are the amounts per year based on?
    looks like Hardwood is about 3.8 cords per year
    while softwood and pellets is 5.9 cords or 5.9 tons a year respectivley.
  6. PutnamJct

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    So how do I correlate those numbers against my real cost to keep warm this season? $1100 in pellets for the whole season vs $2600 in oil last season? It is safe to say that oil would have cost as much or more this season here in NY. Maybe I am the exception to the rule, but I saved a ton (pardon the pun) this season.
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