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BK Ashford 30 pic

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by alforit, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. PapaDave

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    Speak for yourself.;)
    It's bad enough people call me a computer geek. I call some of them football geeks.:p
    Compared to some on here, I am but a computer grasshopper.
    Thanks for that info., Chris.
    The Sirocco is still a bit rich, but is now back in the running since I need to wait for a new stove. Saving more pennies.:cool:
    I wish my local dealer had BK stoves in stock.

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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for posting Chris. That's a good looking stove. Were you able to reduce clearances with the cast-iron jacket? When will the official unveiling be?
  3. Highbeam

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    Whoa! She has a whole lot of junk in the trunk. What's with that big old butt hanging off of it? Will it flop over backwards? Were you trying to simulate the typical shallow/wide stove proportions?

    The front view is really nice. Ash pan as standard equipment, not so nice.
  4. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    Unfortunately, ones that feel this way are a minority.
  5. Beetle-Kill

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    It's still not big enough. ;)
  6. Highbeam

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    So the marketing department tells us. I agree with your conclusion and have suffered through two unwanted ashpans.

    Being open minded, perhaps this one is grate. That is, uses something other than a plug and chute which is pretty lousy for any stove and especially one with such long burn times. The grate could allow a constant drop of ash without having to tool the ash bed. Another key in making it great would be if it actually held as much as a standard ash bucket.
  7. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    The ashford has the same plug and chute like the other blaze kings. That is one thing that I mentioned to the BK guys at the show. A grate or bigger plug would be better I think.
    Unless this is something that they changed. ?
  8. Highbeam

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    Thanks Webby. When the firebox is only 1/2 way full with ash I can easily overfill a full size ash bucket (2.5gallons) with ashes. This represents several refills of the small ash pan and due to the plug and chute design I still need to be in the firebox with a shovel scooping and stirring and making a dusty mess whether I fill up the bucket or I try and sift the ash down the chute. Sorry for the derail.

    The new look is a huge leap forward to getting the BK technology into more homes. Ashford is a fine name but I think "Badonkadonk" would have been more fitting with that caboose.

    That's right, the "Badonkadonk 30".
  9. BKVP

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    High Beam you bust me up! First, this is a big stove...not King big, but large enough for most wood burners. Second, as I mentioned earlier in this blog, we are making some slight changes, one of which is to reduce the "junk in the trunk" as much as possible. We are going to taper the sides of the portion behind the casting to minimize the footprint and help with backing into a corner. Second, the fan system we are working on may utilize some portion of that same space.

    As for the ash drawer, this unit is not a cheap stove. We felt we could build & sell them complete. The lip in the front of the Ashford is actually the handle to the ash drawer, which is on ball bearing slides. And yes the ash bucket is fairly good sized.

    However, your comment is appreciated and we are going to look into some sort of bracket that may be able to hold the cast ash drawer lip in the event we decide to make the ash drawer an option. This may require some additional testing. No promises, but we are listening (reading).

    The point is, your comments are read and APPRECIATED!

    Best,
    Chris
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  10. jeff_t

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    Any chance we will see another 'King big' stove? I understand that these are all built around the same firebox, and development costs aren't as much as several totally new stoves. I also understand the 4+ cu ft stove market is probably pretty small.
  11. alforit

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    Wow !...... Looks even better than in the pic I found.............Thanks BKVP.............. Whoever designed that stove is not related to the previous blaze king designers...... heh heh........... Its a beaut ..... Those red handles really top it off..........very sharp....................Optional ash drawer would be nice....but not if its going to require more testing.........haha........JK ;)
  12. begreen

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    I'm with Highbeam on the useless of plug and scrape into the little hole ash pans. It is useless on our Alderlea IMO. I can see the concern about hearth requirements varying without the AP but maybe a bottom heatshield would suffice to make that not an issue?
  13. webby3650

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    I am on the fence here. I do like the ability to use, or, not to use the ashpan. With a grate, you have no choice. You don't have to dump the pan, but when you do, it's a huge mess!
    I just wish the plug was bigger.
  14. rdust

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    The only time(once) I've "tried" to use the pan on my Princess is on a stone cold stove. When the stove is warm I ALWAYS have coals and I'm not dumping hot coals into the pan. When I scoop the ash out I always push the coals to the back/side/front where ever I need to in order to get a scoop of ash. Trying to do that song and dance while pulling the plug is more trouble than it's worth. Then I'd worry the plug wasn't seated right or had ash stopping it from seating right and I'd be pulling air into the box. It's just not worth that added "stress" in my life. ;lol
  15. Highbeam

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    Some grate systems, dare I say the good ones, require you to open the grate with some sort of operating rod when you wish for the ashes to dump. This allows you to start and stop the flow of ashes in the event that your reservoir fills up but also allows you to establish an ash bed beneath the coals. In a perfect world, the ash reservoir would hold 5 gallons of ashes and be filled this way.

    The only good thing about the plug n' chute system is that it makes a pretty good seal so you don't depend on an ash pan gasket.

    I know that ash pans sell stoves but I plead to the companies... do it right or don't do it at all.
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    I agree. That's why I was glad to see the new Hearthstone Castleton had no ashpan. Not even an option! I like it.
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    I haven't met an ashcan system yet that was worth the hassle.

    Nice looking stove, though.

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