Boiler system install: Components checklist/do's and don'ts/advice & suggestions. Would appreciate y

[huffdawg]

J.B. Ward fitting are all we use, they don't have pin holes in the fittings, and more importantly they are threaded square to the fitting, unlike the asian made units that are rarely true tee's and 90's. Never use Megalok pipe dope in any application , it has the highest failure rate, it truely has to be the worst pipe dope on the market. Gasoila , gimmie the green stuff- or white version, any teflon tape will do on brass and copper joints, steel threads are not recommended for tape unless you use both tape and dope. If your not doing the work yourself, make sure whom ever you hire has plenty of references and experience working on boilers, most failures and problems are a direct result of unqualified installers. Follow all manufacturer's recommended installation instructions exactly, especially if you want to have a valid warranty. When you spend this kind of money, your supplier should also include an approved system design, any reputable sales agent here does for free. This covers you on the flip side. Make sure the products your investing so much money in are atleast ASTM,ASME,UL approved and rated for your application. There is plenty of info below to answer most hydronic questions correctly, don't always rely on internet forums for accurate info/opinions. Good Luck

http://flopro.taco-hvac.com/flopro_u.html Flo pro university, many short videos on everything hydronic related
http://www.taco-hvac.com/uploads/FileLibrary/SelectingCirculators.pdf
http://www.lochinvar.com/_linefiles/BT-03.pdf
http://www.lochinvar.com/_linefiles/INS70069 Rev C.pdf
http://comfort-calc.net/tech_area_index.htm#HWB

I guess living in the states you have access to something other than chineses fittings. I looked around my area pretty hard and could not find any american made Black iron fitttings. I used teflon tape and thread sealant on all fittings. I only had leaks at unions ,which a little thread sealant fixed. I own an EKO which isnt UL or CSA approved . But it is in it own separate boiler room.

Huff

 

[mikefrommaine]

Pex supply sells ward fittings. Free shipping if your order is big enough, not sure about shipping to Canada. They also have a line of imported fittings.

Around here if you walking into a FW Webb (plumbing supply) store they look at you like you are speaking a foreign language if you are a DIYer boiler installer.


http://www.pexsupply.com/Fittings-Valves-15150000

 

[Gasifier]

J.B. Ward fitting are all we use, they don't have pin holes in the fittings, and more importantly they are threaded square to the fitting, unlike the asian made units that are rarely true tee's and 90's. Never use Megalok pipe dope in any application , it has the highest failure rate, it truely has to be the worst pipe dope on the market. Gasoila , gimmie the green stuff- or white version, any teflon tape will do on brass and copper joints, steel threads are not recommended for tape unless you use both tape and dope. If your not doing the work yourself, make sure whom ever you hire has plenty of references and experience working on boilers, most failures and problems are a direct result of unqualified installers. Follow all manufacturer's recommended installation instructions exactly, especially if you want to have a valid warranty. When you spend this kind of money, your supplier should also include an approved system design, any reputable sales agent here does for free. This covers you on the flip side. Make sure the products your investing so much money in are atleast ASTM,ASME,UL approved and rated for your application. There is plenty of info below to answer most hydronic questions correctly, don't always rely on internet forums for accurate info/opinions. Good Luck

http://flopro.taco-hvac.com/flopro_u.html Flo pro university, many short videos on everything hydronic related
http://www.taco-hvac.com/uploads/FileLibrary/SelectingCirculators.pdf
http://www.lochinvar.com/_linefiles/BT-03.pdf
http://www.lochinvar.com/_linefiles/INS70069 Rev C.pdf
http://comfort-calc.net/tech_area_index.htm#HWB

When it comes to advise and suggestions, there are going to be differences in opinion. I was thinking it would happen before this. I started this as a components list. I then started getting do's and don'ts, and some advice and suggestions. And I think they are good to have with the list as well. Can you guys suggest a way to make this the best that we can? Maybe get a consensus on things where there is a difference in opinion? I don't know. I am open to suggestions. I am by no means an experienced boiler man. I just thought it would be a good idea to have something like this in the boiler room as a reference. Could some of you who are experienced boiler men provide a consensus on these differences in opinion.? Do you think there are certain subjects that it should stay away from because there will be personal preference from one person to another? Ideas/suggestions. Maybe we should have 10 well respected boiler guys from the boiler room take what we have got and do with it what they will. Providing the best thing they can come up with? What do you guys think? I have not seen any suggestions from some of the most respected and experienced people on here. I know..... Probably a reason for that. :smirk: All you folks from the boiler room need to tell me what you think. Then if we want to pick some guys....... Let's do it. I will gladly give this idea up to more experienced people to put it together.

 

[SmokeEater]

J.B. Ward fitting.. . . . and 90's. Never use Megalok pipe dope in any application , it has the highest failure rate, it truely has to be the worst pipe dope on the market.

I sent in the Megalok suggestion to be used as a pipe dope, but only because I was given that brand of dope by a friend who is a pro installer. Upon his suggestion I used both the dope and the mentioned teflon tape to seal my iron plumbing. I hope like heck that the Megalock doesn't fail me now or in the future.

 

[SmokeEater]

J.B. Ward fitting.. . . . and 90's. Never use Megalok pipe dope in any application , it has the highest failure rate, it truely has to be the worst pipe dope on the market.

I sent in the Megalok suggestion to be used as a pipe dope, but only because I was given that brand of dope by a friend who is a pro installer. Upon his suggestion I used both the dope and the mentioned teflon tape to seal my iron plumbing. I hope like heck that the Megalock doesn't fail me now or in the future.

 

[SmokeEater]

J.B. Ward fitting.. . . . and 90's. Never use Megalok pipe dope in any application , it has the highest failure rate, it truely has to be the worst pipe dope on the market.

I sent in the Megalok suggestion to be used as a pipe dope, but only because I was given that brand of dope by a friend who is a pro installer. Upon his suggestion I used both the dope and the mentioned teflon tape to seal my iron plumbing. I hope like heck that the Megalock doesn't fail me now or in the future.

 

[SmokeEater]

Delete this please.

 

[ALASKAPF185]

J.B. Ward fitting.. . . . and 90's. Never use Megalok pipe dope in any application , it has the highest failure rate, it truely has to be the worst pipe dope on the market.

I sent in the Megalok suggestion to be used as a pipe dope, but only because I was given that brand of dope by a friend who is a pro installer. Upon his suggestion I used both the dope and the mentioned teflon tape to seal my iron plumbing. I hope like heck that the Megalock doesn't fail me now or in the future.

Thats absolutely fine, I think some may read way more into posts than what they are, and since your not in person there is no way to really know the inflection or intention. Different people from all different regions, its sometimes hard to understand my accent. Those were just suggestions, and first hand knowledge from 20+ years of experience. I hope it doesn't fail on you either, but its been known to push out and it doesn't like expansion contraction. Well you do have to admit, even here you've probably read some pretty basic DIY mistakes. There is nothing I dislike more than a good person with good intentions and abilities taking on a big expensive project , costing themselves more time and money. In some cases actually ruining boilers, or not getting any efficiency out of them. All we are here for is too help or get help,,,,,,, another "good intention" some might take it the wrong way....cheers