Anyone ever do this? I currently have a patio in place, but it's sunk in, is un-even, and was simply built improperly without proper weed blankets in place and it's just a nightmare to maintain. I refuse to use chemicals like roundup. i'm tired of sitting there with a screw driver for 3 days every month scraping weeds out. Plus, I want to make it bigger, incorporate a little retaining wall (since it will dig into a grade) and put a fire pit ring in the middle of it. And I want to do it on the cheap, so paying someone is not an option. It looks like I can get the pavers and retaining wall stone for about $1500 or so for the area I want to do... maybe a little more. $100 in crushed stone, $50 to rent a compactor... All in under a 2k budget should cover it. And my back will foot the rest. heh If you've done it, did you regret it? "I should have hired someone" ? There will be a lot of digging. I'm ok with that. I dug my garden bed 50x75 all by hand 2 shovel spade height deep and rocks sifted. Picture attached for reference. I'm more worried about being able to get it level and not bumpy without the use of heavy equipment. I'm planning to use larger stone, 12 or 18", not 'brick' size stone. actual design still to be debated. The land is already a little sloping towards away from the house so proper draining out and over should be easy to accomplish without too much hard work. And then there's the rounding.... I'm probably going to have to cut stone, of which I have no wet saw to do it. I could rent this as well, but I imagine its going to take me a few days or weeks to do, and that makes it not cost effective. And then there's the permitting factor. Im debating even pulling one, since my house already has a patio on it, and my neighbors won't care especially if im doing it by hand/no machines. We'll see... I don't even know what they cost these days. Haven't pulled one since my stove install. Thoughts?