Buying a Pacific Energy Stove - Looking for advice

[summit]

go with the summit, you will not be dissappointed. The mid sized 27/spectrum would be okay for you if you were doing @ 1500 sgft, but for more than that, you need the big dawg... We heat a 1700 sqft house w/ the summit in Maine, and when jan/feb weather hits -10 I'm glad I have it and not the more "appropriatly" sized super series.

 

[KB007]

+1 for Summit. Our Nap 1450 (2 cu ft) struggled to keep our house warm at night when the temps dropped.

 

[Dix]

The basic needs for my PE insert were 1500 SF of a 2000 SF house (the other 500 is an accessory apartment). Center chimney, pretty tight house (found someleaks this winter, gonna work on those). OHW for the apartment & main house HW. I was good to go.

Lost the oil burner for 3 days at the coldest temps we had in January, and pushed the Pacific to heat the entire house. The main part was 68 at 0. The apartment was 60.

I am now considering a small stove for the apartment ( and an electric hot water heater >:-( ).

Go with the bigger stove, and don't look back.

 

[SKIN052]

Just got a quote on a Summit, all black with on a pedestal and no ash pan, $2000.00 or Nickle trim door, ash pan and blower for $2650.00 plus tax. Thoughts?

 

[oldspark]

Just got a quote on a Summit, all black with on a pedestal and no ash pan, $2000.00 or Nickle trim door, ash pan and blower for $2650.00 plus tax. Thoughts?

I would think that is about right, I was quoted 3050 for a red one with all black trim and blower, I whined and he dropped it to 2700.

 

[begreen]

Skip the ash pan.

 

[SKIN052]

Skip the ash pan.

Why?, again, I am not familiar with new EPA stoves. I am used to the old stoves that all the ash fell to the bottom of the ash pan anyway. If I install an ash pan would I just have to rake them into it anyway?

 

[Hogwildz]

Skip the ash pan.

Why?, again, I am not familiar with new EPA stoves. I am used to the old stoves that all the ash fell to the bottom of the ash pan anyway. If I install an ash pan would I just have to rake them into it anyway?

The ash pan is small, messy, and is just another place that if not sealed correctly, will let additional combustion air in , making the fire harder to control.
Its just as easy to scoop/shovel the ashes from the floor and into an ash pan, put a lid on and take outside and rest on a non combustible surface, and away from any other combustible surface.
Its just not worth the added mess & cost.

 

[begreen]

Yup, it's design is poor and pretty useless. Comes standard on the Alderlea, but I would not pay extra for it. We don't use it at all. Can't say it's worthless as it might make someone a nice bun warmer.

 

[madison]

The ash pan is small, messy, and is just another place that if not sealed correctly, will let additional combustion air in , making the fire harder to control.
Its just as easy to scoop/shovel the ashes from the floor and into an ash pan, put a lid on and take outside and rest on a non combustible surface, and away from any other combustible surface.
Its just not worth the added mess & cost.

Second that, and the blower can be added on yourself if you decide you need it. Just have a power outlet within 6 feet

 

[oldspark]

Skip the ash pan.

I thought the ash pan was standard on the summit.

 

[oldspark]

On the PE site it says the ash pan on the summit is standard.

 

[dispatcher101]

Pain in the ash Not really if you ask me, but what do I know.

 

[begreen]

On the PE site it says the ash pan on the summit is standard.

It's standard on the Summit Classic, but optional on the Summit pedestal model.

 

[SKIN052]

I like the look of the pedestal a bit more plus I have 2 large dogs that will cause a bunch of fur to fly around under there anyway. I went to talk to the guy today about the stove and guess what, closed on a Saturday What business closes on a Saturday? I know it's off season but come on

 

[SKIN052]

Made the plunge today. Ordered the PE Summit, should be here in a week or so. Thanks for all the advice guys.

Pics will come but they will take a while, not installing till later this summer.

 

[oldspark]

Made the plunge today. Ordered the PE Summit, should be here in a week or so. Thanks for all the advice guys.

Pics will come but they will take a while, not installing till later this summer.

Cool I hope you like yours as that means I will like mine.

 

[dougstove]

The ashpan is not necessary. They run best with about an inch of ash or more in the bottom anyway, and it does not accumulate fast. I empty mine with a shovel into a metal ash bucket, about 1-2 empties per cord of wood burned.

 

[SKIN052]

The ashpan is not necessary. They run best with about an inch of ash or more in the bottom anyway, and it does not accumulate fast. I empty mine with a shovel into a metal ash bucket, about 1-2 empties per cord of wood burned.

Very impressive, I was expecting much more dumping. Why does it work better with a little ash in the bottom? I am the type of guy that would have probably been cleaning that thing once a day.

 

[dougstove]

I think the ash bed contributes to insulating the combustion layer and keeping it hot; it also seems to change the air flow properties a bit.

 

[wendell]

I think the ash bed contributes to insulating the combustion layer and keeping it hot; it also seems to change the air flow properties a bit.

Plus, you aren't creating too much heat on the floor of the stove, cracking the brick or warping the grate, depending on what your stove has.