Can't burn the stove tonight...

Mr Whitfield Posted By Mr Whitfield, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:20 AM

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  1. Mr Whitfield

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    Can't burn my stove tonight, Bay Area Air Quailty Managment has shut me down, well all wood burner in the Bay Area, all pellet stove, fireplaces, wood burning stoves etc...
     
  2. firewarrior820

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    life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness : (
    i think its slowly going away
     
  3. wilbilt

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    Wow. That is unfortunate. I was hoping it did not include pellet stoves.

    I hope that legislation never arrives up here. Many people use wood for heat and have no other option.
     
  4. Lobstah

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    What a travesty.
    And with a new administration coming in...I'm afraid we're going to see more of that. And it's so unnecessary.

    Jim
     
  5. j00fek

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    i would demand the purpose of such moronism
     
  6. Lobstah

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    File it under the banner of Air Pollution and C02 fanaticism.
    And then see what happens as soon as C02 is declared a "pollutant" in Feb/Mar...and we all have to purchase carbon credits for our pellet and wood stoves.

    Jim
     
  7. Jester

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    How would they know if you wer burning?
    Ive got no visible anything coming out of my chimney.

    AND they dont want you burning a pellet stove, so switch back to your oil furnace which pollutes how much more?

    There arent many times Im glad I live in Massachusetts......
     
  8. Lobstah

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    I guess the only way would be if a pesky neighbor wanted to bust you...?

    No one said it had to make sense...not much of that around anymore.

    Agree about the "live in Mass" comment, but it's coming here too. Mass signed onto the Northeast Carbon Trading pact a few months ago, and you know those folks inside Rt 128 just can't wait to have some control over how the rest of us live our lives.

    As you said, tough to tell if you're burning pellets...but I haven't been outside enough with the stove running to know if you can smell it or not.

    Jim
     
  9. Jester

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    Id want to read the statue on it. What are the fines, are you obligated to let them in and chack, or do they have to get a warrant?
    Stove would be cold by the time they got there with that.
     
  10. Lobstah

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    Don't know, but I would guess that towns will see it as a source of revenue. They'll go through records, and everyone that has an inspection permit for a stove/fireplace/pellet appliance will get tagged automatically to buy "offset credits". The town will get a fee for administration, there'll be a new office created for compliance...

    You've lived here awhile?...If so, you know how these things go... You north coast or south shore?

    Jim
     
  11. Xena

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    Wow Mr Whitfield, sorry to hear that def sux!
     
  12. Jester

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  13. j00fek

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    i read about this on their site, what i dont understand is whats the diff between burning wood or oil? more c02 in the oil but no particles?

    i dont understand all the hippy's in california
     
  14. sydney1963

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    Why?
     
  15. jjdesch

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    don't ya know? we need this global tax to spread the wealth around - come on, be patriotic and pay your CO2 gas tax
     
  16. sydney1963

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    You have got to be kidding me! This is just the start you know. God help us all.
     
  17. jjdesch

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    I predict a huge pandemic of buyers remorse
     
  18. Jerry_NJ

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    Where is northern California, San Francisco? If yes, give Mayor Newsom, he'd come to your aid if anyone tried to stop you from running around in the street without cloths, not that you'd want to if you need wood heat.
     
  19. roadrat

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    From what I understand burning wood, Especially in a pellet stove is Carbon neutral , no Carbon credits needed, but give it time the Eco-Nazi loons will come up with some new excuse to liberate your $$$ from your pocket, Its just a matter of time.


    bill
     
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  21. wilbilt

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    Here ya go...
    http://www.baaqmd.gov/enf/woodsmoke/woodsmoke_portal.htm
     
  22. wilbilt

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    Hence the value of a "Saturday Permit"... :coolsmile:
     
  23. bungalobob

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    Just plain sad. How do you Californians put up with this type of crap?
     
  24. jjdesch

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    refrains....from making....further.....political commentary
     
  25. wilbilt

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    Don't judge us all by LA or the Bay Area. There are actually some normal people here, but we are outnumbered.

    I left LA 23 years ago because I could see where it was headed.

    The Bay Area is so bizarre it should be on another planet.

    But it's all relative. The cities are spreading, and the inhabitants are seeking the more rural areas as they get priced out of home ownership. One couple from LA-LA Land bought a home near here a few miles down a remote road. They successfully convinced the county to install a street lamp across from their driveway because "it gets so dark" at night.

    Amazing.
     
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