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Can't find ANY information about my new stove

Post in 'Classic Wood Stove Forums (prior to approx. 1993)' started by Anja, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. Anja

    Anja Member

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    Good Morning....I am hoping for help from wood stove experts.
    We had the opportunity to buy a wood stove that is from Sweden and looks brand new. It isn't your typical wood stove, my research seems to show that it might be a wood furnace. It is from 1979 but looks like it might have been used 2 or 3 times. You can see it was built when things were still built right. Our concerns are we know nothing about it. How many btu's does it put out, there doesn't seem to be a flue to operate, so all the heat would seem to be escaping. When you put your head in the stove and look up, there are 3 cylinders going up. Seems to be a storage chamber above stove. In 10+ hours researching online I have found very very minimal information other than the company closed (or now does geothermal heat in Sweden thanks to my Uncle in Germany....so I have really tried exhausting all avenues to find out about this stove). I found a patent on the stove and trademark of the term combi-therm (yet no explanation of what combi-therm means.....so to us it seems that the blower regulates the circulation of heat, so it radiates and circulates the heat). I have several pictures to hopefully help.
    Any and all help is appreciated. As you will see the vent is on top but it has a vent within a vent (it looks like). It seems like it will be ultra efficient if we can find out how to use it.
    Thank you for your time :)
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  2. Heatsource

    Heatsource Minister of Fire

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    looks like it takes some type of proprietary pipe. might be hard to find the correct chimney...

    we couldn't install one like that in our area, w/o epa cert

    sorry, no other help
  3. wazzu

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    Are those doors air tight? Is there glass behind that screen or is it like an open fireplace? I don't think I would recommend installing something like that. With an older wood stove, you have a generally straight forward design that is easy to operate and unstall. That thing looks like and experimental design or something.
  4. coaly

    coaly Fisher Moderator Staff Member

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    Anja,
    Without looking at the unit, I believe it's a direct vented burner designed to not use any oxygen from the inside of the building.
    Looks like the same air intake principal as a direct vent gas heater;

    You need to see if the center pipe going up out of the firebox is the exhaust flue (the inner of the outlet on top) and if the other two above the firebox are connected to the space between the inner and outer pipes on top. These would be the intake, called a "direct vent" so after starting the fire with inner doors open, using inside air to get it drafting, you then close the inner doors so it has to pull it's intake air down the outside of the inner exhaust pipe. (The double pipe is extened all the way to the top of chimney) This intake air cools the outside pipe, and the exhaust pipe preheats the incoming air to the fire)
    "Combi" probably refers to combination fireplace in open door with screen mode / radiant heater in closed mode.

    Homes over there are sealed much tighter and require their own air intake.
    If you look at an Empire Direct Vent intake / exhaust vent, you'll get the idea of the chimney pipe and cap that has the integrated intake pipe around the inner exhaust pipe.

    If you look into websites for Scandinavian built log homes, you'll find this type of heater. They are up around the Artic Circle and know their heat !
  5. Caveman-travel

    Caveman-travel New Member

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    I have an owner's manual (in English) for this stove. I also have a stove like this for sale. Message me if you still need/want info.
  6. Anja

    Anja Member

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    Good Morning....I don't even know what to say. I guess "shock" describes my reaction to seeing your e-mail. You really have an english owner's manual for this stove?!?!?! We have given up hope..... I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE LOVE LOVE to get a copy of it from you. Since we've had one stove taking up space in our living room for almost 4 years, unable to use, I don't think we're in the market for a 2nd stove, but if we can actually use our stove we might be able to recommend it to other's and give a referral to you. I can't believe that you might be able to help us. Please let me know how to proceed about getting a copy of your manual from you. THANK YOU in advance for your time!!!!! :)
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    Caveman-travel New Member

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    Just send me your information and I will make a copy and mail it to you. It's not too elaborate, just about 4 or 5 notebook size pages. My email is travel@ctcn.net. Hope it helps. The one I have belonged to my in-laws. It heated about 1200 square feet very efficiently. Cheers!
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    Caveman-travel New Member

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    For everyone interested, the inner doors are actually fine mesh fire screens. The manual says that you can burn the stove with just the inner doors closed and it works like a regular stove. It takes air from the room into the fire box for combustion and exhausts it up the chimney. Or you can close the inner and outer (glass) doors and the air for combustion is drawn in the outer flue pipe, down through a damper, up through the fire grate and is exhausted up the chimney. The one I just uninstalled drew it's combustion air from the attic of the house. The circulation fan is underneath the cabinet and pulls room air from floor level, circulates it around a heat exchanger, and exhausts it through the louvers near the top front of the stove. The previous owners had a 1200 square foot house and they said that it heated it "too well" except in the coldest of weather. BTW - We are in central Ohio so it does get cold! They also said that it was very wood efficient and that the cabinet stayed cool enough that you could lean against it even after having a fire going for several hours. I did find a link in the April 1990 Popular Science magazine. I hope this link posts. http://books.google.com/books?id=kY...wBw#v=onepage&q=combitherm wood stove&f=false
  9. Anja

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    Hi It's Anja....I wanted to confirm that you got my address information. I hadn't received confirmation from you that you got it.
    Thank you :)
    **Anja**

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