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chimney liner choices/options?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Jack Fate, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    There are a lot of places to get these flex kits from,MANY

    thinking smooth flex, any better than others?smooth flex looked to me to be more durable & may clean up better?

    don't mind paying few bucks more for quality,service

    any good sales on :p

    at one time someone was giving % off to hearth.com users

    8 x13 tile liner O.D. to get 6" liner 15' long (will measure again before ordering)chimney in center of home its a double barrel brick,block & tile ,2 story home .Just doing one side NOT using insulation on liner!

    May ? want to extend pipe some?can this be easily done at later date ? guess I should refrain from buying only the simplest top as i'm thinking I could end up not using the hinged top I was thinking of using

    Where my house is I get a lot of wind eddy currents ,lots of woods & open fields like a checkerboard

    thoughts on finishing the top?

    just too many choices.

    this is step one of my VC resolute stove replace

    have yet to find that good hearth shop I can trust for stove purchase

    I'm liking the PE T5 so far

    cheers all

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  2. ethanhudson

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    Reading your posts is super confusing to me. Too many lines, not enough punctuation... Almost like a stream of consciousness. To answer your question though, I bought mine from Chimney Liner Depot, and I would recommend them.
  3. fire_man

    fire_man Minister of Fire

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    I was confused by the fragmented post, too.

    My feeling is to go with a rigid ss liner unless there is a good reason not to.
    Rigid flows best and is the most durable and easy to clean.
  4. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    My feeling is to go with a rigid ss liner unless there is a good reason not to.
    Rigid flows best and is the most durable and easy to clean.[/quote]

    Ridged was my first choice. Some tried to persuade me against it do to snagging on mortar joints & said that the flex drafted better. I don't know if that's true:rolleyes:
  5. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    Sorry I'm a mechanic not a writer :(

    I space lines in an effort to make it easier to read at least for me :)

    thanks will put these guys in the mix
  6. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    The T5 is a sweet heating stove.

    One of the best liners you can put in the chimney will be DuraLiner. It is insulated which will help with the shortish chimney. To improve draft I would also consider connecting the stove with a pair of 45 deg elbows and a short offset instead of a 90 elbow.
    http://www.dynamitebuys.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=66
  7. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    May be hard to get 2-45's in the short pipe run I'm gonna have .Stove will be 5-9'' from thimble & thimble at 59.5" from floor, so top of stove to thimble is 30ish" Was this where the offset comes in ?

    The oval looks interesting, going this way seems I need to ala-carte every piece. Sort of scary. Not like I can just exchange something with ease_g As I read the warranty there is none for DIY:eek:
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Two 45's will give you about a 5" offset without a short pipe and about 9" with a 6" section in between. Call Sean at dynamite buys for exact measurements and return policy. He can put together your order and answer questions. They are good folks.
  9. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    Got mine from Rockford, they have a 10% off special running right now. Use a flashlight to look down your chimney to see if you could install a Rigid liner, if not 6" flex would squeeze in there if you don't have messy joints. I would use fill insulation after the fact if you run into draft issues.
  10. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    called Sean he's working on it.ovalized flex vs. ovalized ridged .

    down side is cleaning

    Got a quote on T5, with tax & gas to get it $2500
  11. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    Yes those were my thoughts also. Do have some mortar joints to catch on though

    Yes that's the cheapest & easiest way .

    Thanks, will go this way if others come in $$$$
  12. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    I had some mortar joint poop sticking out of mine, but I was still able to slide down an insulated 6" flex liner down mine, I think I knocked a lot of the poop down when I ran my 6" liner down the first time with no insulation, had to pull it out and redo it after my 1st season, but I have an exterior chimney. It has been a couple years but I do believe mine was 8x14 OD as well.
  13. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    I'm 6&1/2" id at best with mortar joints,less .that's why I was going no insulation

    found NEW problem T5 over stove clearence
  14. fire_man

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    [quote="Jack Fate, post: 1472008, member: 26199

    I agree snagging on mortar may be a reason to go with flex, but no-way does flex draft better than flex. The physics says a solid rigid pipe is the best for draft.
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    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    I agree snagging on mortar may be a reason to go with flex, but no-way does flex draft better than flex. The physics says a solid rigid pipe is the best for draft.[/quote]

    I agree ,but these are pros telling me that. So 50 yrs of physical logic or the paid pros .

    sorry but a quote is in order here

    An expert is someone who knows no more than you but is from out of town
    may be Mark Twain

    OK new question

    has anyone changed a 2 story twin barrel 2 wood stove only chimney to a single hi efficiency stove set up as my brick chimney helps radiate heat through out the upstairs ,chimney in middle of house with large brick hearth between the two ,but apparently not large enough , as told not efficient .Please reply only if you have experience first hand

    cheers
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    If you can do rigid, go for it.
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    If I could understand what you are saying there I might know if I have the experience.
  18. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    I am guessing he wants to see if the newer stove will send as much heat through the liner so it will help warm his brick chimney, which would be no, newer stoves operate at a lower exhaust temp due to the baffle and reburn.
  19. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    Yes , the chimney will no longer have that soft warmth to it. Concerns me the house won't heat the same .

    That's what I meant to say ( sure did muck that up: ( )

    Between work & this project I'm stressed out

    Each time I think I can move forward I find a new issue to deal with

    Alderlea t5 now can't make over stove to ceiling clearance with out lowering my floor

    Cheers any way
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Our chimney had a full liner when the old insert was installed. You could feel the warmth radiating off the brick even with that liner.
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    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    in the second story? insert ? I'd sorta figure an insert is in contact with your chimney would radiate upward .You don't have that anymore do you?

    still waiting on Sean to give me my options on chimney liners
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Our 2nd floor stairs went up alongside the chimney back. I could feel the warmth as high as I could reach. It was warmer lower as one would expect. Point being is that you will get some heat transfer, just not as much as with a raw chimney flue. The compensation for that trade off is a warmer, cleaner, safer flue that drafts better.

    The fireplace and chimney were removed in 2006 with no regrets.
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    I'll second Duraliner. I used their double wall rigid and it was worth the extra money. Well worth it. You will not regret it if you choose that route.
  24. Jack Fate

    Jack Fate Feeling the Heat

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    update, Sean got back to me with a good quote, went to double check my measurements. I removed stove pipe ,looked in chimney & my heart sank .Sean had me with ovalized insulated ridged liner,it fits my tile chimney WITHOUT tile removal .But alas my thimble is on the narrow side of my 8"x13" tile liner so when the oval changes back to round to exit out thimble it does so on the 13" side .So no dice , thanks Sean for trying .Something's just aren't meant to be.

    game over
  25. Hogwildz

    Hogwildz Minister of Fire

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    How wide is the oval? Why will it not work exiting on the 13" (larger) side?
    If i remember correctly, the rigid round Duarliner is a 7" outside diameter?

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