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CL Add,Full cords $30 What do you think?

Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by HDRock, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. StihlHead

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    Here in the PNW, many of these too good to be true ads are often times just that. They are there to get phone numbers and email addresses. Or worse, they email you back and say that they have whatever they are posting some distance away and all you have to do is pay shipping. Many scams out there. Russian babes wanting to get married, and fleece you for all you are worth.

    'Free' firewood here is gas money and time, and in some cases it is cheaper by the cord, already split, dry and delivered. $175 is my cordwood delivered benchmark. At a half cord per truckload, it costs me about $20 in gas, round trip, or $40 a cord. Time is usually 2-3 hours per load. While time is money, free wood is untaxed and income is not taxed either. To net $175 for a cord of wood by working for it, I have to make about $250.

    Splitting varies; last load I got was dry split doug fir that a couple had, and they decided that they did not to burn wood for heat any more. Worst stuff is blowdown that I have to cut, load, split, stack and dry. Or logging remains and I hunt through the slash piles and cull logs. Typical load is from an arborist falling trees and they have huge rounds that I quarter with the saw (noodle cut) just to load them, and then I split and stack it when I get home. That is all for 'free wood'. People here want 'cordwood prices' for standing trees all the time. Or they want to trade for standing trees, falling, bucking and splitting the wood and you get 50% of the wood. Or worse, they want you to drop the trees they have on citiy lots that have laws against cutting trees w/o a permit. The guy cutting gets the fine. Also people here want arborist type tree removal in exchange for wood all the time, and they want you to be licensed and bonded, and have references. For the firewood? Not. There is usually all the cottonwood and poplar that you want here as well, for free.

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  2. smokinj

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    8.00 around here cash is pretty good....I use to pay 10.00 back in 2007 and before but just tougher for me to pay 8 now...lol
  3. HDRock

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    when I am looking at wood to buy, and it is $40 or $45 per face cord, and I have to go pick it up,it isn't really worth it,when I can have it delivered and stacked for $55.
    The guy with the foreclosure updated his post ,on Nov 9th so I sent him a new e-mail,but no response yet.


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  4. Backwoods Savage

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    Depends upon what the wood is and the going price in your area. $10 - $15 doesn't seem like a lot for that much as we all know how much work it is. Still, it becomes easier for them to short you when they do all the work.
  5. HDRock

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    Got a hold of the guy with the tree tops, and can't even go take a look now .
    He said he is not doing anything at the location with the wood, cuz the farm is now being rented for hunting, until the first of Dec. That sucks cuz by then there my be snow to make things more difficult :(
  6. amateur cutter

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    Do not fear the snow unless it's butt deep. keeps logs off the ground & cleaner when skidding. Keeps chains out of the dirt etc. Much better than mud or skeeters. A C
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  7. HDRock

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    Going out to take a look at the site , and wood ,today, found out it's only 5 miles away
  8. HDRock

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    You can't tell it in this pic very good , but there are trees down all over in front of view ,to the right, and left, some of it is on (touching) the ground , but much of it is not actually touching the ground, there are also standing dead trees, This is one spot on 100 acres
    Some of it I can back the trailer right up to it.
    The bad thing is some of the wood, I don't what I am looking at,/ what kind of tree ;hm

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  9. maple1

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    I don't think type of wood matters.
  10. amateur cutter

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    If it was logged for timber/lumber it's very likely hardwood of some variety. I see some smaller Oak, Cherry, & Maple standing in the pic. Those tops will make good firewood. Take saws, trailer, & camera. Oh yea have fun too. A C
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  11. HDRock

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    AC : I went out and cut some today, and did have some fun, I could tell it was hardwood while cutting, and it looks like maybe Maple I was cutting.
    There are tree, bottoms ! There also, pic

    I put this in another thread also but I will put it here again .

    I found out today something else that I don't know about this kind of stuff, I went out and cut about a face cord today .
    I was going after some of the smaller stuff that was up off the ground , thinking it was going to be dry enough to burn, because it was not touching the ground but , the bark is pretty wet and just under the bark is wet , I checked in the center of the wood on the end grain after I made cuts and that was like 16% MC, but the outside of the wood is like 35% MC or more , so it doesn't look like I am going to be burning any of this until next year.
    Will it dry out ,stacked and left open to the elements ;?
    Why , is it so wet under the bark like this when it is, 4 feet off the ground and setting there for two years ;?;?

    Does a bear or a wood cutter crap in the woods ? ;lol;lol

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  12. weatherguy

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    Its amazing how long the water stays in the wood with the bark still on, I guess the bark does its job well.
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    Those logging roads are usually not most accessible. If you can get up the road and scrounge, do it. They are practically giving it away. Or maybe you have to cut the tree down first.
  14. amateur cutter

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    HD, don't panic just yet, some of that smaller stuff may be ok in a couple of weeks to a month. Quite often the moisture right under the bark is environmental from rain/snow etc.The best bet is to split a few of those pieces down the middle & test with the prongs going with the grain.If the moisture content in fresh end cuts was 16% or so, that wood may be pretty dry.The moisture on the outside is little different than the wood in your stacks that gets rained or snowed on. It will dry quickly in the wind or in the stove room with low humidity. If you don't need it till next year don't worry, if you need it soon, stack it under a top cover in the wind, & it'll dry in no time. Put a piece or two in the stove & see if it sizzles from the center of the round, or just a little at the edges, then you'll know for sure. Hack those bigger logs up & split & stack them asap, & I'll bet they are ready for next fall if you need them. I think you'll find that you made a good score there. At 5 miles from home & a decent price, I'd get all I could.
    As to your last ?, do what you have to, I always carry tp with me. A hollow 18" round makes a good porta potty. Just don't try it with a bear in the vicinity, bad time to get caught with your pants down.:mad: A C
  15. HDRock

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    Oh ya I did what I had to do do, with napkins from the console, when I worked construction ,it was box in the basement .
    I was kind of discouraged so I just stacked it and went in to eat .
    Okay I just had to put my headlight on my head and go split some, it is definitely Maple, I'm not sure which kind of Maple
    The pieces to the left were split from an 8 inch round and MC was 25 to 35% , inside, the one in the middle was a 5 inch round MC was 17 to 21% , the one on the right is some of the smaller stuff , last pic is close-up of that , second pic is just the pieces flipped over ,I threw the small round in the fire and some from the 8 inch round in the fire

    So, Maybe after I split it and let it dry a couple of weeks or so it will be okay



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    Property owner looked at this load and said 10 bucks, almost a face cord

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    Don't be, keep looking for & cutting the smaller stuff for now, it'll burn & keep you warm. Been where you're at, it's not perfect, but it's doable. Run right through that place & cut 2-3 trailer loads of the 4-10 inch stuff that's off the ground. Look for ash & cherry, they'll be the driest. That's sugar maple there I think. A C
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    Good lookin' stuff there,both in the trailer & on the ground.
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    only if nobody is around...then it doesn't smell...
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    It can't be seasoned if it's not cut yet. Why do a lot of loggers think it is?

    If the wood could be driven right up to, and was close enough, like 5 or 8 miles away, I'd go for $30 a cord. Around here green is north of $150 a cord, not stacked. I was given a lot of free wood, situation similar to what's in the photo. It was a semi-groan, but it worked out to be about 10 cord. I hope no one ever gives me free wood again.......
  21. HDRock

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    Split some more and pulled the bark off, It isn't really punky ,and under the bark is 18- 20 % MC, while the same piece is 15-17% MC on the inside, the bark on the other hand is like 40 % It burns fine with out the bark but, will burn with it on in hot fire
    I also been burning some 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 in pieces with bark on ,to try, it burns just fine
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    LOL, my brother always has to poop when we're in the woods getting wood, good thing I always have rags in my truck.
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    Nice, environmental moisture. Not a real problem. Now go cut the crap out of that stuff. A C
  24. HDRock

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    Ya , I did notice it is pretty damp in that spot ,and there is a big pond 75 yards away, and now it rained yesterday and today but no rain tomorrow,, as long as the jeep can get me in and out without getting stuck

    Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it :)

    Next question , I will put in a new thread, Log skidding,Never done it, tips, and advice

    Some of the wood back in 25, 50 to 100 feet I figure I can cut into maybe 7 ft or so, logs and drag em out into the open (with jeep) near the trailer , then cut n load
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    Get a set of log tongs & make life easier, long tow strap, chain, or bull rope. Cut em 8' & drag em out. My little Cherokee would skid 8' X 24" logs no problem. Use low loc & go easy. A C

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