1. Welcome Hearth.com Guests and Visitors - Please enjoy our forums!
    Hearth.com GOLD Sponsors who help bring the site content to you:
    Hearthstone Soapstone and Cast-Iron stoves( Wood, Gas or Pellet Stoves and Inserts)
    Caluwe - Passion for Fire and Water ( Pellet and Wood Hydronic and Space Heating)

CL add, Township says he can't have that wood

Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by HDRock, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. HDRock

    HDRock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,188
    Loc:
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    3G63t93Lc5L85Ie5t3d6he23e515486f2171c.jpg http://flint.craigslist.org/grd/3877574833.html

    Lots of Firewood For Sale...Cheap - $40 (Lapeer Township)

    Have to get rid of some of my large stack of un-cut and un-split firewood according to the township. It is however, okay for my next door neighbor to burn garbage, (a matressess and plastic Christmas tree today in fact), and to let every dog on this @#$%! street to bark 24/7. Go figure. Anyway, letting it go for 40.00 a pickup truck load for hardwood (all you can fit on), and for 30.00 a pickup truck load for softwood (outdoor burners and campfires). If you're good at piling stuff up, a full size pick-up can hold a good cord and a half to two cords. Willl have to load you late evenings or on Sunday since I work for a living. If interested give me a shout at 810-six-one-four-7887.
    3E13Gb3H75sd5q25t5d6h325871ab1feb16ca.jpg

    Helpful Sponsor Ads!





  2. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    Doesn't look like a pile of firewood to me, not a split in sight. Looks like a pile of heavy yard debris. Probably why the township has an issue with it. ;)

    I'll bring the saws. And clean that pile up pretty quick. But he ain't gettin' a dime from me.....
  3. blujacket

    blujacket Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2008
    Messages:
    616
    Loc:
    West Carrollton,Ohio
    I can't see a full size pickup getting more than a 1/2 cord load, not sure what that guys thinking.
    Soundchasm and Trilifter7 like this.
  4. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    You can do 1 cord + on some real beefy pickups, 1 tons specifically. Being that it's all unsplit, should be pretty easy to get 1 cord (final product) in an 8 ft pickup bed.

    Not sure I'd want more than 1/2 cord of green wood in a half-ton pickup. You'd be pushing the payload ratings for sure.

    Perhaps the CL poster is thinking in "face cords"?
    PapaDave and Mitch Newton like this.
  5. HDRock

    HDRock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,188
    Loc:
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    Most likely he is , that's the way it is here in Mi, if U see the word cord ,98% of the time it means face cord
  6. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

  7. wazzu

    wazzu Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2009
    Messages:
    83
    Loc:
    SW Idaho
    Looks like the guy is a slob. If he had a larger piece of property nobody would care. Or if he would cut and stack it, again nobody would care. I guess that's what happens though when you live in town.
  8. HDRock

    HDRock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,188
    Loc:
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    MasterMech likes this.
  9. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2007
    Messages:
    27,816
    Loc:
    Michigan
    I sort of have some fun with the dummies with their "cords." I tell them we burn only 3 cord per year and they are flabergasted. Then I tell them that the winter of 2011-2012 we only burned 2 1/2 cord and that really throws them for a loop. Some have asked, "Ya, but how much propane did you burn too?" Then when I tell them we do not have a furnace some have even called me a liar. So, I just call them stupid.
  10. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    Just do what I did. Pulled up one of the many threads we have here discussing the subject and picked a wordy post. Copy paste into the old fake newspaper article generator and viola. Instant funny. ;lol
  11. Soundchasm

    Soundchasm Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2011
    Messages:
    487
    Loc:
    Dayton, OH
    I saw something when I was searching the net that indicated that in Oregon or Idaho (can't recall which) that it was illegal to sell in anything other than an increments of a cord. It was the legal unit of measurement.
  12. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    I believe that is the case here in NY as well. I doubt it gets enforced however since CL is full of ads for "pickup loads" of firewood.
    ScotO and HDRock like this.
  13. Thistle

    Thistle Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    4,206
    Loc:
    Central IA
    I'd tell that township to go eff themselves.I live in town on a 1/4acre max lot,have close to 4 REAL cords of firewood stacked nice & neat underneath heavily shaded processing area in backyard,most all is hidden from the front on a busy street.Including quite a few large logs that are fodder for the Alaskan mill & several stacks of rough milled blocks/slabs for woodturning,other future projects.

    Been this way for years & have never had any troubles with the city officials & my neighbors are great too,I'm the one they call to trim their trees & do anything like removals also.
    gregbesia, save$ and ScotO like this.
  14. jeramy

    jeramy New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2013
    Messages:
    13
    Loc:
    fintry bc canada
    I think if the guy had it stacked and split neatly no one would care.Chances are hes had it sitting like that for a while and people eventually complained.
    n3pro likes this.
  15. Applesister

    Applesister Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,234
    Loc:
    Upstate NY
    I think the guy should buy chickens with the money he makes selling wood. Chickens are usually grandfathered into most laws.
    Trooper, ScotO and Soundchasm like this.
  16. Applesister

    Applesister Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,234
    Loc:
    Upstate NY
    If a guy piles wood in big mounds in the forest and no one is around to see it, is he still making a mess?
  17. HDRock

    HDRock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,188
    Loc:
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    TO YOU , WAZZU
    I think U, R making a quick judgment on a small amount of info.




    I posted this cuz I thought It was Interesting , but also ,cuz, I have had similar " bull Sh!t " with ordinances , and considering my secluded location ,It really burns my ass, that other people think they can tell U ,what U should or should not ! do with your property .
    Although !! There are a lot of variables here
  18. ansehnlich1

    ansehnlich1 Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,601
    Loc:
    Adams County, PA
    I think we should identify the type of wood. He mentions 'softwood' in the ad, and indeed it looks like a lot of pine. My bet is he doesn't burn wood and had a bunch of pines removed, doesn't want to pay to haul it to the dump and just let it lay there.

    If he was a wood burner that pile would have signs of being processed, and his stacks would be covered :p
  19. Plow Boy

    Plow Boy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2012
    Messages:
    150
    Loc:
    Iron Station, NC
    Amen Brother!
    save$, chvymn99 and ScotO like this.
  20. red oak

    red oak Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,133
    Loc:
    northwest Virginia
    I'm pretty sure I've gotten 3 full cords in my Ranger before ;)
    ScotO and blujacket like this.
  21. pyroholic

    pyroholic Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2013
    Messages:
    219
    Loc:
    Mid-Michigan
    Being from Michigan, everyone, even serious burners, only know a face cord, and use the terms interchangeably. After being around Hearth.com I am bilingual and do the conversions in my head depending on who I am taking to and where they are from.

    Most of the time it is useless to try and explain the difference, it is easier to just speak the language of the locals.
  22. NortheastAl

    NortheastAl Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2012
    Messages:
    676
    Loc:
    Putnam, NY
    Yes, I think it has something to do with the fire load on the property. I assume it is based on lot size and maybe local ordinances as well. I have not heard of enforcement either.
  23. NortheastAl

    NortheastAl Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2012
    Messages:
    676
    Loc:
    Putnam, NY
    I'm sure that started from unscrupulous wood dealers. We have one guy who says that the word "cord" has been so misrepresented he only sells wood by palletized single row stacks. 4'x8'x16". At least with that you know what you are paying for.
  24. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    482
    Loc:
    New York
    That looks like my front yard right now!!

    No wonder the neighbors are giving me dirty looks.

    Must. Process. Faster.
    Plow Boy likes this.
  25. ScotO

    ScotO Guest

    Don't mean to sidetrack the thread, but these ordinances touch a soft spot with me, too. Funny thing about ordinances, our local township has been 'changing the rules' in regards to building for the last decade.....
    Before, you didn't need a permit to build a shed on your property UNLESS it was anchored into the ground (via cement slab, foundation, or posts cemented in the ground. That permit was only around 20 bucks.....no big deal. Now, even the sheds that are build with no physical attachment to the ground need a permit....and that permit is several hundred dollars with all kinds of bullchit stipulations. Found out a local fellow found a way 'round that permit.....he built his free-standing shed and put a 'for sale' sign on it.....no permit needed..
    Township stopped to hassle him about it and he said he built it and it is for sale, he's open for offers......he'd like to get at least $10,000.00 for his hard work on his small shed.:p

    Township can't do a damm thing about it, either.......>>

Share This Page