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Considering BK but Wondering...

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by DWIGHTTBP, Feb 16, 2013.

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  1. aansorge

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  2. Highbeam

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    Whoa Eddy!! That's some crazy chit you've done. WOuld love to see the pictures. Especially the crazy door extension that must be 8" deep.

    I burn softwoods for 100% of my heat and I don't have to empty the ash any more than once per 6 weeks. Even then, I only empty the ashes to allow me to load more fuel. The princess has a 6" deep belly that holds lots and lots of ash but more ash means less fuel capacity.
  3. Highbeam

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    Nobody can know for sure except BK but it is highly unlikely that changes were made. That princess has been a staple for decades. More likely they just matched the spec to real world results. When I bought my princess the spec was still 20 hours on low which is silly easy to exceed even when using low btu wood split small.
  4. webby3650

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    They still do. But the wrapper does not say Super Cedars anywhere on it. So, if a customer wants more of this great product, they have no way of knowing what it is. I don't understand why they don't at least put their web address on it?
  5. eddy_currents

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    Not crazy, real practicle. I have a pic of it on my phone, I will see if I can post it, if not post a email address and I will send it there.
  6. ohlongarm

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    A total misnomer, I can get all the fire viewing I want with the BK,it's all about air,as far as the glass it's all about wood. I haven't cleaned my glass once this year and it's as clean as any stove burning on the planet.
  7. webby3650

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    I beg to differ. You could have perfect draft that helps keep the glass clean. You might not load it full and run it on Med or Low like most do. If I filled it with small soft splits and left it high it did OK. Everyone has a different set-up, and most BK run dirty glass. Other stoves, generally speaking, will keep clean glass no matter the set-up. I ran a BK King for 2 seasons, and install a dozen or so each season. I've been around a few!

    I just think it's something that a customer needs to be aware of before making a big purchase, especially if they are hoping to have a nice view of the fire.
  8. webby3650

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    UMM? I'm speachless!
    The cat Isn't really designed to produce extra heat. It extends burn times and cleans up the smoke, so your neighbors can breath.
  9. eddy_currents

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    true, but you have to burn the stove hotter to activate the cat, and that cooks me out of the house(1 foot thick walls). My neighbors breath fine, infact two have bought a blaze king after seeing mine. oh man, with that pic it sure shows that I am not a welder!
  10. webby3650

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    My cat fired up really quick, then I could turn it down to low and it would cruise at around 250 degrees for 40 hours. My King didn't even seem very hot when the cat was into the active zone.
  11. rdust

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    Congrats you took one of the most efficient and pretty clean burning stoves on the market and turned it into a smoke dragon.
  12. Machria

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    Regarding starting a fire in a modern stove, click this link and scroll down to post #9 for easy instructions, and #15 for pics of it. You will NOT need paper, peanuts or lots of kindling; http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/fire-starting-with-a-modern-stove.105231/


    Regarding burn times, before you get all caught up with the BK 24+ hour burn times being talked about, do what I did and experience it yourself what they are talking about. Sure they do what one "might" call "burn" for that lenght of time. But, what they neglect to tell you is, you really do not get any heat out of it when burning that low. In April when you might get a 30 hour burn at the lowest setting, I will have my windows open and no fire, for fresh spring air. When it's 50 or 60 degrees out, you really don't need or want a fire in the house, but that is just me. I don't want to be carrying wood and loading the stove, sweeping up the dirt... to heat the house 5 or 10 degrees. On the other hand, a LARGE part of why I like burn wood and upgraded my fireplace to a freestanding stove was, to get heat from it, while still enjoying a fire show, and all that comes with. When a Bk is turned up for real heat like last night when it was 15 outside with 40 knot winds, it gets 10 or 12 our burns, just like the rest of us. There are only so many BTU's in a load of wood. ;)

    Now, if I was installing a stove for the sole purpose of heating my home, and it was going to be located in a non-main-living area of the house (aka basement, empty heat room....), I would not hesitate for a minute to get the largest bk they make and stick it in there and have at it.

    Having said all that, I do like the look of the Chinook 30, that is a beauty looker. I like the modern looking stoves and wonder why there are not more of them. All the manufacturers need to update their lines with more modern looking models.
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    I have to say my BK has had clean glass for a good month now, just as clean as my Woodstock but I have been burning right around #2 with the colder weather. I used to be pretty anal about a good looking fire and clean glass but have changed more to function over form since I installed the BK.

    Eddy,
    Those are some interesting mods you made on your stove. I think I'd still burn it with the cat, it should give you a longer burn, cleaner chimney and save you a ton of firewood throughout the season.
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    This not so with the Blaze King, unless you've had one, you wouldn't understand. They are a totally different machine than a Hybrid.
    It will get 24-30 hours under the conditions that you mentioned.
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    I have not owned one, but that is exactly what 2 bk dealers told me when presses on the question. They didn't give me that answer until I explained they would be refunding my money and spending a couple grand building scaffolding on the side of my house to get it out if it didn't perform that way. Then suddenly the truth started coming out with a nervous tilt to the conversation. If yours gets 30 hours when it's 10-20 outside, good for you. But again, there is only so many BTU's in a load of wood.
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    That's right, and the BK will extract every one of them!

    What dealer wouldn't run when presented with this ultimatum? The fact is, the BK will get these burn times, other stoves will not. Most dealers can only go off what they are told by sales reps and customers that give feed back, and they aren't willing to go out a limb for one customer that threatens revolt if the thing doesn't do everything that was promised.
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    Nonsense, its still very clean burning without the cat, I will agree more so with it, but the difference is minor. Efficiency as a function of wood burnt in cords against cubic volume heated/length of heating season/temperature heated to, determine efficiency. My BK as factory built, or as modified blows away every other wood heated home in my area.Nothing I have seen equalls it.
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    The fact is: it was 76+% efficient, now it's closer to 50%. Like other pre-EPA stoves with no technology.
    If it was over heating your house, why did you want it to hold 24" logs?
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    I love your style..lol.

    That said you will get a longer cleaner burn with the cat in..huge diff.
    I ran one bkk non cat for years then I bought basically the same stove with a cat and I'm consuming at least 25% less wood and I'm way warmer...more even temps...no smoke after the cat is up to temp and on low burn..and I'm on low burn I would say 90% of the season.
  20. Machria

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    Well, since you asked, Woodstock didn't run, and doesn't. 6 month money back guarantee no questions asked, and they pay return shipping. When I proposed the same scenario to them on the phone, they did not hesitate a second and basically said "absolutely,it will perform as stated.... And you can return it if it doesn't". ;). Bk would not do that. ?
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    Woodstock won't do that!
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    Dwight, I hope you received the information you were looking for. If not and you still have questions, a new thread with your updated focus would prove to be most beneficial.

    Click the "start a conversation" button under my avatar to the left if you have any questions.

    pen
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