I have a damper installed and pretty much use it full closed all the time. Of course they are designed so they can't fully shut of the gas flow. But I bought a Dura-black damper assembly recently to go with my new Dura-black stove pipe and discovered theirs have a large open slot in the center. Which means I would have less control over the draft. I think I'll swap a solid plate for that open one before I install. I think I now know why I heard about a dealer installing 2 in a pipe to get control over the draft. If he was using the same as he sold me then I can see where he would need 2.