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  1. Havendalefarm Member

    joined: Mar 16, 2013
    63 posts
    New Haven ,NY
    We put the deposit down for the Progress Hybrid. Shipping was as cheap as driving there, especially counting the inevitable stop for lunch, so just went that way. Will be sending us a refurbished Charcoal colored stove in April when they get done with it. Couldn't see passing up the savings for the refurb since they had the exact color wife wanted.(and I'm cheap) They are even going to put on a refurbished ash pan at significant discount. Hopefully it is warm enough in April to be down to one stove and I can just set it right in the front door with the skid steer. Just want to say Thanks to all on this forum that share so much info.
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  2. HollowHill Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 29, 2009
    621 posts
    Central NY
    Congrats! Tell your wife she has great taste (mine is charcoal as well and I love it). I wouldn't get a used stove under most circumstances (don't know enough to make an informed decision), but I wouldn't hesitate to get a refurb from WS. Way to go!
    Backwoods Savage and rideau like this.
  3. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,945 posts
    southern Indiana
    How do they end up with a stove that needs refurbished? The PH hasn't been out very long, I'm kinda surprised. Since it seems to be the best stove ever made, so I hear.
  4. Havendalefarm Member

    joined: Mar 16, 2013
    63 posts
    New Haven ,NY
    They said they get them back from folks on the six month guarantee for one reason or another. My guess would be operator error or maybe they were new to wood or didn't like the look. Just know that they stand by the refurb to be good as new, just no six month buyback. I don't have any worries at all about that. When my wife gets used to it being warmer in the house it might be warmer upstairs. That stove won't be going back.
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  5. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,346 posts
    southern ontario
    We'll be eagerly awaiting pictures once it's installed, and a report once you start burning.

    You are just going to love watching that stove burn...gorgeous and amazing flames.

    Have fun, and stay warm!

    (I wouldn't worry either about a refurb from Woodstock. I'm sure they regasket everything when they re-sell a stove, even if it's hardly been used. :) And I'm sure they'll have added any modification they have made to the stove since the original build.)

    They number every stove. Just out of curiosity, would like to know the number on your stove when you get it. Wonder if they keep the original nymber, or assign a new number.
  6. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,941 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Congrats. You are gonna love that big rock.
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  7. Havendalefarm Member

    joined: Mar 16, 2013
    63 posts
    New Haven ,NY
    Yes, they said they basically rebuild the stoves. Will come with all the updates, including the cook top and rear heat shield and new cat. Will post pics when in. Have to make the hearth a little bigger and may just do the veneer on the chimney over. Has old cheesy brick veneer with black "mortar", very 70's and would look funny with the new stove I think.
    BrianK likes this.
  8. ddddddden Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 20, 2009
    1,169 posts
    Central Va
    ==c
    Sweet! Go with some stone. Stone on stone looks awesome.:)
  9. Woody Stover Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 25, 2010
    3,389 posts
    Southern IN
    Long john lovin' ain't easy. ;lol

    Congrats! Keep us updated. :cool:
  10. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,701 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    You should still take a day and go over to meet the good folks at Woodstock.. You'll be impressed! Everyone there is really nice.. Congrats on your new stove! You're going to really love burning wood now.....You bought more then a stove, you bought hand crafted work of art;)
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  11. mellow Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 19, 2008
    1,756 posts
    Salisbury, MD
    Wonder what they do with all the "old" cats they take out. That would make for one heck of a Yard Sale.
  12. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,346 posts
    southern ontario
    Returned cats they send back to the manufacturer. Maybe they do with ones from returned stoves too.
  13. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,701 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    I was told that some people run in to financial problems thus having to give back the stove...the main reason they are returned... Like you said, why else would someone return such a great stove;)
  14. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,473 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Another reason I could see someone returning a well loved stove like this would be from someone attempting to burn their "seasoned" wood of three months and thinking that the new-fangled, modern woodstoves are crap and wanting to go back to their beloved Moes, Fishers, etc.
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  15. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,701 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    Good point!
  16. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    Actually, the only reason I have herd of a PH returned was because it was too much heat for the space. And now that I've burned one all winter, I could understand that. ;)
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  17. georgepds New Member

    joined: Nov 25, 2012
    28 posts
    My experience is you can control the heat by
    1) using less wood
    2) turning the air supply down

    This thing will start and burn well with three sticks of wood

    I've got much better control over the PH than my old Jotul combi-fire ( the pre EPA one that looked like an easter island head).

    That said, the woodstock rep who took my wife an I around the shop mentioned he used a Fireview at home because the PH was too big. Somewhere in the woodstock blog they talk about a working title for the PH stove (BMF)
  18. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,158 posts
    Michigan
    George, I'll bet they treated you well at the factory. Yes, that title came on early and seemed to stick.
  19. raybonz Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 5, 2008
    5,978 posts
    Carver, MA.
    Congrats HDfarm you bought yourself a fine heater! Look forward to the pics!

    Ray
  20. bag of hammers Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 7, 2010
    601 posts
    Northern ON
    I don't know much about cats, or Woodstock stoves from personal experience, but i would love to have a PH just from an aesthetic point of view. It is an amazingly beautiful stove.

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