I just picked this up off Craigslist. Gal just kicked her husband to the curb and was selling his stuff, lol. She had it listed for $150, still a good deal. She was moving out,and said get here in 10 minutes, $100. I got ther as fast as I could, about 15 minutes. It started right up. I can really feel the power difference from my CS-3450. 18" bar. Nice deal on a $300 saw