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  1. iceguy4 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 16, 2011
    351 posts
    upstate ny
    HI everone :)
    I have been poking around this site looking for insite on what boiler I should purchase. Has anyone any experiance with the EcoBoiler Pellet Boiler? I like to tinker so cleaning wont be a problem so I'm kinda thinking any money saved on a self cleaning unit I will spend on pellet storage. I'm leaning away from an out door unit also... but will go that route if necessary. I have read about the "central boiler" and it seems to be too problematic. I not in a big hurry as this will be used next heating season. My question is in the $7000.00 price range .can I get more stove for my $$
    Thanks in advance for your time
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  2. sinnian Minister of Fire

    joined: May 28, 2008
    715 posts
    Limerick, Maine
    You're close, but if that includes installation cost than I would be leery. Have you looked at the Pinnacle Pellet Boiler? Click the link on my signature.
  3. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,729 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    Check out marks products at hydro to heat converter. I like the eco boiler a lot but it requires a chimney, marks can directvent
  4. Mr._Graybeard New Member

    joined: Apr 27, 2012
    34 posts
    Southeast Wisconsin
    This is my first season with a Harman PB 105 boiler. I like it very much so far. It was in the $6700 range with discounts when I bought it last summer. Its heating capacity is about 110,000 BTU, I believe.
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  5. iceguy4 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 16, 2011
    351 posts
    upstate ny
    direct vent solves alot of problems as well as the expence of a chimney. man my head is spinning!!! also its self cleaning too...I think?!? I have 6 or 8 months to figure out what boiler to go with. I have spent hours reading forums and I want to get the best boiler short of going crazy by throwing $$$ at it. I'm confortable with 6 or 8 K$$...direct vent also excites me too. Anyone else?
  6. Mr._Graybeard New Member

    joined: Apr 27, 2012
    34 posts
    Southeast Wisconsin
    The Harman is also direct-vent. I had a plumber piggyback it into my hydronic system using a primary/secondary loop. Installation came to about $2K.
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  7. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,729 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    If you have a hydro air system the flex 60 from harman is a great p boiler
  8. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    i know nothing about pellet boilers but can that flex 60 heat my water tank and both floors considering my air handler and venting is in the attic? yes hydro air
  9. ScotL Burning Hunk

    joined: Feb 7, 2011
    104 posts
    Central Maine
    I have a Harman PB105 but I've been looking hard at a Kedel.
  10. iceguy4 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 16, 2011
    351 posts
    upstate ny
    can I ask...why are you jumping ship? I have read of problems with the igniter and fire pot...are those buggs worked out? I'm real handy and cleaning and servicing will kinda be a labor of love. I have burned wood for years and have all the tools(splitter ect) but the thought of being able to burn pellets seems easy. I guess now direct vent excites me the most. an outside boiler is NOT the way I want to go.
  11. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,729 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    yes and no....hows that for an answer?
  12. iceguy4 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 16, 2011
    351 posts
    upstate ny
    happy turkey day everyone!!! I'm going to buy the pb 105 with bulk storage 2marrow. I went to see it yesterday and it looks great! It has been up and running for 4 or 5 seasons. I discussed some of the issues from here (bubble over the igniter...ect) and his answer was "you can't believe everything you read on the internet". Its my guess the problem has been resolved and I will be recieving the "latest and greatest" I was gonna wait till next year and have chainged my mind based on...... my observations (saw the unit) , fuel prices(close to $4.00/gallon),and the fact that Mr Greybeard said it was a direct vent unit. The only part I'm not 100% confortable with is the bulk storage. My deal is a package deal and I'm realizing quite a savings ...but do I rilly need it?
    Anyway based on the fact that Harmond has been around for a while...its USA made...and I have "black friday...BUY>>>BUY " working me over, I'm pulling the trigger.
    I expect to have it up and running before December and plan to share with all who are interested. I am a craftsman , so it will be a clean install. My next endevor will be with a pellet mill:eek:. Its my understanding that the harmond is not as fussy as others and the thought of making pellets from my grass clippings gives me a "woody":p ...anyway ...thats next year. anyone interested in a 28 ton splitter?:confused:
  13. wil lanfear Feeling the Heat

    joined: May 10, 2008
    400 posts
    vermont
    I'm not sure that the burnpot bubble issue has been resolved, only time is going to tell, but I can say that I think with this new style burnpot Harman is really trying to find the resolution, in fact, maybe this burnpot is the answer.

    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/pb-105-burnpot-bubble-issue-update.91399/#post-1222695
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  14. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    exactly the answer i expected from you, just as the sky isn't blue :)
  15. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,726 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    You guys best pals or sumin?
  16. Centurion Member

    joined: Nov 27, 2008
    76 posts
    Nr Albany, NY
    I also have a PB105 boiler and I love it and have had it for 4 winters now. Other than the burnpot issue I have had little problems with the unit. I do have faith that Harman will come up with a resolution for the burnpot bubble and Wil has been keeping us advised on the progress (thanks Wil!). I save approx 1200 a year over oil with pellets. (Oil at $4.00/gal and pellets at $248/ton. Winter house temp setting with oil was 65*, now with pellets, average setting house temp is 72*. My wife loves the PB105 too and as in her words, "I'm not freezing anymore!". Don't put too much stock in what the dealer says though. My dealer has never admitted that there is a burn pot issue but keeps giving me a free one under warranty every year. Of course we all know that salesmen always give the full story! Six to seven thousand dollars is a big sale for them. As far as the other boilers, I can't comment on on them but with cast iron construction I don't see me ever needing to buy another.

    GL
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  17. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,729 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    we are estranged soulmates
  18. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,729 posts
    Southcoast, MA
  19. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,726 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    I hear if you tickle him under his chin, he giggles a lil! ;)
  20. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    careful tickling Jay's chin, you just may tickle my :oops:
  21. sinnian Minister of Fire

    joined: May 28, 2008
    715 posts
    Limerick, Maine
  22. Mr._Graybeard New Member

    joined: Apr 27, 2012
    34 posts
    Southeast Wisconsin
    Good luck, Iceguy. I know some people use storage with these units, but I'm very comfortable running it without. The fire is well-controlled and the unit manages temperature very well.

    My research suggested that Harman has been tweaking the design of the boiler incrementally over time, so I made a point of getting the latest design possible. That said, I've already spotted a little warpage in the burnpot. Part of the cost of doing business, I guess.
  23. wil lanfear Feeling the Heat

    joined: May 10, 2008
    400 posts
    vermont
  24. iceguy4 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 16, 2011
    351 posts
    upstate ny
    How old is your boiler,,,grey?
  25. iceguy4 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 16, 2011
    351 posts
    upstate ny
    I bought the stove today. I elected not to get the bulk storage as of yet but that is another story...My question is at full tilt, how long will I be able to go between hopper fill ups? My dealer is including 1 ton of premium pellets($150) and he says any of the pellets that come from Massena, NY are good pellets. That said, the Latham home depot has that pellet for $209. should I stock (oink oink) up (oink oink) or will there be pellets available later in the season? (crystal balls working??)

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