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Englander FP-12 Door Gasket

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by amkazen, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. amkazen

    amkazen New Member

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    I called in a woodstove installer after a week of everything I touched turning into a major unexpected issue. He inspected my stoves today and said I need to put 3 screws in each pipe joint, plus I need to extend the chimney 2' - 3'. He also said the door gasket for the FP-12 needed to be replaced. I bought the door gasket today and of course this is a holiday weekend so I doubt the store is open tomorrow but I think they sold me the incorrect gasket.

    Would any of you know if Rutland Grapho-Glas Replacement Stove Gasket I bought is the correct size? It looks thinner than the original gasket I have already removed. The new gasket is Item #92, and the bag label states it is a 1/2" - 5/8" x60" rope. The England web site parts page states the FP-12 uses a 5/8" rope gasket. However, the Rutland web page does not list a 5/8" gasket. They list a 1/2" (item #92) and a 3/4" (item #92W), both 7' long. Also, their web site listing for item #92, the one I bought, is even different from the bag labeling of 1/2" - 5/8". So, I am concerned if item #92 will work or not. What do you think? I hate to have to wait until Tuesday, if they are closed tomorrow, to check this out, and I don't want to use it if it is truly a 1/2" and not 5/8". Thanks for the help!

    Rutland Door Gasket
    England FP-12 Parts Web Site

    Oh, the pipe is expensive: about $125 for a 3' section of Selkirk 6GT-36! ugh

    And, is there a fast way to get all the old OEM rubbery cement off the door? I just tried using a chisel and it is slow going so I stopped for the night.

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  2. pen

    pen There are some who call me...mod. Staff Member

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    You'll want to use the gasket from the Endland website. There are high and low density gaskets and englander uses the high density stuff. Not sure about the Rutland stuff you bought, but as a general rule, most of the gasket material I have seen in stores is of the low density variety and won't allow for a tight door fit.

    Is this a new stove? What was wrong w/ the old gasket that it couldn't just be re-glued?

    Good luck

    pen
  3. amkazen

    amkazen New Member

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    Hi,

    In answer to your questions, in particular order....

    1) The stove door was not tight.
    1a) A dollar bill could be pulled out easily between the door gasket and the stove with the door closed tightly
    1b) Downdrafts caused smoke to come out of the stove with the majority of the smoke forced out the top of the door
    1b) The dollar bill was tightest on the bottom as it could not be pulled out at all.
    1c) The dollar bill could be pulled out from the handle side of the door but it was still snug.
    1d) The dollar bill could be pulled out very easily from the top of the door.
    1e) I could not find in the Englander Owners Manual for this stove any reference to being able to adjust the door tighter or looser.

    2) I know about the high density & low density gaskets from reading the posts on this site. I cannot find on the Rutland site, nor any other site, a specific reference to high & low density properties of the Rutland Grapho-Glas door gasket I bought. I was hoping someone with more knowledge than me on this site would know about Rutland from previous posts, etc. . I did find this reference on-line, however: High Density Gasket is a gasket that is embedded with graphite making it denser and slightly more durable. Going from this on-line sales store definition, the gasket I bought is high density as it does have graphite in the fiberglass.

    3) The stove is not new but is about 4 - 5 years old..I forget when we bought it.

    4) The "expert"..the guy who has done wood stove installations and repairs for the past 15 years, vs. me who bought the stove and installed it & cleans it 1 - 3 times per year, inspected the stove and determined the door gasket needed to be replaced after looking to see if the door could be adjusted. Not all wood stove installers are expert but I doubt one of the leading wood stove retailers here would have him as their main installer for the past 15 years if he did not know his stuff...so, I trust his judgement. Therefore, I bought a new gasket which was recommended by the retail floor sales person. This could be suspect given how knowledgeable a lot of retail sales clerks can be, and hence the reason for my initial post.

    5) When I pulled the original doro gasket off the door it left little threads still attached to the door so I doubt it is reuseable. Also, is it safe to reuse a door gasket? I doubt it but I am not an expert.

    6) Original questions: Anyone on this site know if the Rutland Item #92 door gasket is useable on the Englander FP-12 stove? The package label states it is a 1/2" - 5/8" rope but the Rutland website states it is just a 1/2" rope. The new Rutland gasket does appear thinner than the OEM gasket I removed, and I don't think thickness has anything to do with density.

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