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EPA should ban unseasoned wood burning

Post in 'The Inglenook' started by sebring, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. sebring

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    I dont believe they should, but since they were so concerned with having stoves with better combustion they would ban unseasoned wood burning. Having people burn seasoned wood would be just as good as the stoves they helped bring to market. Just thinking.

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  2. Seasoned Oak

    Seasoned Oak Minister of Fire

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    Probably not the worst thing people have burned in their stoves.
  3. tschwendler

    tschwendler New Member

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    Don't give them any ideas! They're out of control as it is!
  4. corey21

    corey21 Minister of Fire

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    Sometimes that is all people have.
  5. firebroad

    firebroad Minister of Fire

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    Might be better to make sure wood sellers don't sell wet wood. Especially when they advertise it as "seasoned".
  6. Jim Buckhorn

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    No. No EPA. Use reason and educate. We are Americans.
  7. joecool85

    joecool85 Minister of Fire

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    That's true. There should be a legal limit for moisture content and calling it "seasoned".
  8. oldspark

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    I cant wait until you can only burn "EPA approved fuel" in your EPA stove.
  9. MishMouse

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    Or a better suggestion would be to design a stove that burns > 90% efficiency with less then seasoned wood.

    Saying a ban on unseasoned wood would give the EPA the authority to come into your home and fine you if the moisture meter does not read what they want it to read.
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    Classic!
  11. JustWood

    JustWood Minister of Fire

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    Ja, forget about personal responsibility on the homeowner/woodburners part.
    I witnessed first hand how the government (USDA) handled the EAB and it was/is a joke.
    If I had to season all the wood I sell for 2+ years I'd charge $600 cord. It wood take 3 times the handling I do now and 20 acres of ground.
    What's next ,,,,,, regulated well done sushi !!!!!
  12. ISeeDeadBTUs

    ISeeDeadBTUs Guest

    How many BTUs in a[well seasoned] Bureaucrat?
  13. Backwoods Savage

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    Right on Lee.
  14. oldspark

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    A water burner?
  15. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Have it on Hilton property and it is by their rules. Yep. They cook the Sushi.
  16. Seasoned Oak

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    As long as you dont try to claim it is already seasoned,no harm done.
  17. LLigetfa

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    No stove burns > 90% efficiency with even dry wood. Take out the "burns > 90% efficiency" requirement and you have an OWB. Those OWB guys claim they are designed to burn green wood. Heck they even have one called Greenwood.

    The EPA stoves won't burn green wood anyway so this whole thread topic is moot.
  18. Singed Eyebrows

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    Then you probably wouldn't like the German solution either. Last I heard they test your boiler/stove for emissions with a drop down probe in the chimney. If it doesn't pass you are given a chance to correct it. When they come back if it doesn't pass the heating appliance goes with them. Randy
  19. BrotherBart

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    By the definition provided by the Department of Energy a seller could actually sell what we call wet wood as "seasoned".

    "Seasoned Wood
    Wood, used for fuel, that has been air dried so that it contains 15 to 20 percent moisture content (wet basis)."

    Since wet basis wood of 15 to 20 percent would represent a dry basis of 18 - 33% then anything he sells you under 33% dry basis is by definition "seasoned wood". Since wood moisture meters are calibrated on dry basis what you think is 20 percent wood would be legal for a seller to call 33% wood.

    Have fun.
  20. jharkin

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    Banning unseasoned wood... that's about as enforceable as the speed limit. good luck.

    And I have to disagree it would solve the smoke issue. An airtight (pre-epa) stove with the air choked off is going to smoulder and smoke no matter how dry the wood. There may be less smoke but it will still be smoke.
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    Wee bit paranoid?

    Want EPA into designing stoves now? Or just pushing the impractical?

    Define "seasoned" precisely, please.
  22. BrotherBart

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    “Seasoned Wood
    Wood, used for fuel, that has been air dried so that it contains 15 to 20 percent moisture content (wet basis).â€
  23. oldspark

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    3 times a charm BB.
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    :lol:
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