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  1. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,711 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    I hear about this guy all over the place. His name is Carl. He works for a few hearth shops in my area and does some freelance pellet stove cleaning/ repair. I have yet to find one of his installations that do not have to be redone, but this one takes the cake.

    So 6 years ago he installed this stove. Exhaust is not high enough off the ground. Notice the black and charred remains of the siding and trim. Well, the leaves caught fire...because the exhaust is not high enough off the ground. Nor is the exhaust far enough away from the windows...but that is another story.

    The homeowner's leaves and yard catches fire and it singes the house, burns the roof, breaks the glass etc...

    So...they call Carl back and say. "what's up? this needs to be installed better."

    The solution? He cut a hole into a trash can and exhausted into that. Homeowner says it's great, they keep the lid tight and empty the ashes once a year, but they cannot figure out why the glass on the stove is always turning black.

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  2. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,921 posts
    Northern Virginia
    And they ask us why we drink Lord. They ask us why we drink. !!!
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  3. imacman Minister of Fire

    You gotta be freakin kidding, right?? :bug: :ahhh:
  4. little_hawk_59 New Member

    joined: Dec 11, 2009
    75 posts
    michigan
    i dont even think that is something RED GREEN would do but he would have used duck tape some how
  5. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,711 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    You think I'm making this S*** up? Carl is a legend. He installs for (or did) Energy Solutions in Holliston, MA and the stove shop in Wayland, MA...I forget the name. Energy Unlimited.

    Can you see why I'm so busy???
  6. imacman Minister of Fire

    I think a "Thank You" Christmas card is in order, from you to Carl this year. ;-)
  7. slvrblkk Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 2, 2008
    853 posts
    Northampton, PA
    Speechless......wow, talk about rigging something up....this definitely takes the cake......
  8. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,438 posts
    Standish, ME
    +1 and you need to find him many more gigs :zip:
  9. nailed_nailer Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 29, 2007
    704 posts
    Cape Cod, Ma
    Scott,

    You should locate him and give him a whole box of your business cards to hand out.

    Ask him to provide them with his "installs".


    Or ask him if he would send you over a list of what installs he has completed each week.
    So you could follow up behind him and probably save a life.

    ---Nailer---
  10. gbreda Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 3, 2009
    1,202 posts
    Lakes Region, NH
    And the fire dept allows this why?
  11. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    WOW



    words can't describe this.
  12. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,438 posts
    Standish, ME
    You should never assume that the fire department (or town, whatever) evens knows about it.
  13. corkman Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 3, 2009
    317 posts
    SE,Mass
    with my plastering business being a little on the slow side lately i'm thinking i might have to give this pellet stove service a go.heck ,if karl can get paid for leaving that behind i should survive just fine.holy krapp were those people totally clueless.hey scott ,pretty soon you'll have enough material to publish a book of funnies on this stuff
  14. DAKSY Super Moderator

    Man, talk about job security...
  15. smalltown Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 1, 2008
    475 posts
    Western Maine
    If I hadn't seen the picture Scott I would have thought you were making it up! At first I couldn't see the exhaust pipe and wondered about the blackened area.
    The sad part is that sooner or later he is going to get somebody killed.

    I wonder what the homeowner will think of Carl after seeing how you re-do the install and his stove works so well.
  16. briansol Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 18, 2009
    1,107 posts
    central ct
    This is a serious safety issue.

    I would call the fire marshall and report this guy to get him fired.
  17. gbreda Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 3, 2009
    1,202 posts
    Lakes Region, NH
    Well I guess if the fire dept wasn't notified, neither was their homeowners insurance company. Lucky they still have a house and no one was hurt.

    damn
  18. mike56 Member

    joined: Aug 13, 2010
    166 posts
    broad brook,ct
    unbelievable! and i thought i have seen a lot
  19. defield New Member

    joined: Nov 21, 2008
    433 posts
    South Central Maine
    This Carl guy is outta control and should find a different occupation, although from the looks of his work, and lack of common sense, what could he do?

    Construction traffic control . . . naw . . .He would get "Stop" and "Slow" mixed up.

    Elevator operator . . . . .nope . . . .He couldn't learn the route.

    Anyone out there got any good ideas for what Carl could be retrained for??

    I, also, would not have believed that install if pictures had not been included.
  20. tinkabranc Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 23, 2007
    1,636 posts
    South Coast MA
    OMG! :ahhh:
    I can't believe what I am seeing!
  21. captkirk5858 New Member

    joined: Nov 2, 2009
    168 posts
    Northern Vermont


    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
  22. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    I have seen the old spark bucket before, But always thought some verticle pipe would have been a better/safer option!

    No I am not carl! :p

    Shouldn't the spark bucket have a relieve hole or holes?
  23. EarthStove Member

    joined: Jan 15, 2009
    109 posts
    Central MD
    Federal government employee. He would fit right in.
  24. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Genius> Put 10 gal H2O in can to absorb heat n' soot. Cover side of building with aluminum foil. Pull off in spring, duh. :)

    (sorry the debil made me do that.)
  25. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,711 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    What I find most amusing is that this is the SOLUTION the guy came up AFTER the house already caught fire once. One would think that after the house catches fire you find SOMEONE ELSE to create a solution and maybe even go a little over board with that solution. WHY they didn't just vent into the chimney which is 4 inches away from the stove is beyond me. Crazy stuff. Crazy.
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