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Fire and Food. Chicago style pizza in the mud oven.

Post in 'The Inglenook' started by fishingpol, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. fishingpol

    fishingpol Minister of Fire

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    Well, second good firing this evening. First two pizzas were embarrassing, plain cheese flops(tasty though). The dough did not rise during cooking. They were more like flat bread pizzas. I may have let it rise too long in the bowl, but I am not sure.

    Last pizza was a Chicago deep dish. New dough recipe, new sauce recipe and used part skim mozz cheese(thanks Bfunk). Grated Parmesan over the whole shebang. The pizza rocked it. I raked the coals out and cooked it about 20 minutes with the wooden door in place. The sausage, mushroom and garlic smell seeped out the tiny gap around the door. Probably the best homemade pizza I have made yet.

    First, firing pics

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    Raging secondaries, surprised the camera didn't melt.

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    Hot out of the oven.

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    The recipe has 1/3 cup of olive oil in the dough and pan was oiled. The crust was slightly browned, slightly crunchy and that Chicago style crust was almost like a biscuit crust. I was as full as a tick and have leftovers for tomorrow.

    Maybe sausage calzone and a barbecue chicken for next weekend. A major thunderstorm rolled through while stoking the oven this evening. It was very enjoyable though when the temperature dropped 15 degrees in an hour after the front passed.

    One more teaser...

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  2. bfunk13

    bfunk13 Minister of Fire

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    Thats what I'm talkin' bout!
    Looks super tasty. I will have a WFO someday.

    I currently have a batch of dough rising on the counter. Relatives will be here Monday and we will do pizza and wings.

    Congrats on the pie!
    Keep them pictures coming.
  3. fishingpol

    fishingpol Minister of Fire

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    Thanks man. It is getting fun now with different toppings. The cheese made a difference too.
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  4. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    Have you consulted the famous guys writings on pizza therapy? All the secrets are given away.....
    http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm

    My wife and daughter were just in Italy for a week and confirmed that our secret local place is as good - or even better! Then again, the use a wood fired oven and she is from italy and he from france! Here is a pic of their pie.

    When you get that quick burnt crust look and the crust tastes like the finest chewy italian bread....you are there! Oh, you gotta use the best cheese too.....

    Two pies here - the nice thicker crust one is the top of the line, IMHO.
    The greasier looking one is a Frank Pepe pizza - also considered some of the best.
    Keep at it - until you perfect it......

    pizza1.jpg pizza2.jpg
  5. fishingpol

    fishingpol Minister of Fire

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    Nice looking pies, I started to peruse that site. There is a lot there to absorb.

    There is a coal-fired pizza place somewhere here in Ma. I imagine they cook at high temps.
  6. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    I think Angelas is the boston-area one....
    http://angelascfp.com/

    Never tried it. The real fame is in New Haven, CT. Probably worth the trip for you one day!
    Look them up - Sallies, Pepes and Modern (and a few others)....

    Of, if you are even traveling through Hartford or at the Moheghan Sun casino, Frank Pepe has coal fired places there.......but, as I said, not quite as good (IMHO) as some....

    It's a real art! ALL the ingredients and processes much come together. Some of the pics like the one I stole below show what I am talking about in the crust - notice the way it has risen and the types of "nooks and crannies". As you can tell, I'm a bit crazy about this stuff...but so are a lot of other people!

    Get those bubbles in the crust, some burnt spots....and you are on your way!
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  7. fishingpol

    fishingpol Minister of Fire

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    Whoa... There is a delicate balance between the crust, not too much sauce and just a smattering of cheese. I am not worthy!:eek:

    Beautiful pie.
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    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    Dang, there's some nice looking food in this thread. I can almost smell it. I wish I had some sort of 3-D printer oven so I could download the pizza file, print it, heat it up and eat it. :cool:
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  9. DexterDay

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    Jon, looking good....

    Now this is yet another thing I have to add to the list of "Needs" (actually a Want, but Need makes it happen faster. Normally :()

    Looks awesome and delicious ;)
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  10. bfunk13

    bfunk13 Minister of Fire

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    Yeah, a pizza margherita is a thing of beauty.
    So simple, yet so good. Simple dough, light sauce, mozz and basil.
    I know the real neapolitan pizza is made with italian "00" flour. This flour is only good in a wfo with high temps.
    Someday, someday:(

    ok i will share one. DSC06649.JPG
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  11. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    Some people actually fly to NYC just to do pizza tours! Really!

    For me, it holds a lot more pull than a art museum!
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    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    Grasshopper, the realization is the first step. You are on the path.
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    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh hell, there are groups people of every imaginable persuasion who fly all over the world to indulge in whatever it is that trips their triggers. Pizza?...I pick up the phone. No TSA screening involved. :cool:
  14. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    Next time you do so, cut a piece and take a section photo of it like above......
    :)

    I'd drive about 90 minutes - maybe 2 hours if other stuff was going on - for the finest......​

    Next time you make it to the big city (Portland), try this one!​

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  15. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    for those near Philly, Taconellis is the place to check out!

    New Englanders have quite a choice, but if you don't want to go to New Haven, try Al Forno in Providence - they have a LOT more than pizza, but their pizza makes most "top" lists - it's called "Grilled Pizza"....pic below

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    You're truly doing god's work. Some god somewhere
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    foundations went in for the outdoor kitchen and pizza oven this weekend
    hopefully by fall wood fired pizza
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    Vulcan, I think.....
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    Jack Straw Minister of Fire

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    Hey, I am in Chicago, anyone have any suggestions? I'd rather have Fishingpol's!
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    Yummy!
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    Gasifier Minister of Fire

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    Man you guys are making me want pizza. Sooner or later, probably later, I am going to put a wood fired oven in the basement. I want to be able to cook our own bread and pizza, etc. I am going to wait until the day when I can afford the complete basement remodel. That will be many years from now though. :( Oh well, in good time.
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    Don't know enough about Chicago pizza to compare, but we have been to Lou Malnati's. It was good, but like I said, I don't have any standard.

    This is my attempt. It was pretty darn good.

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    Yes - get out of Chicago. Your welcome.
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    People in Chicago think they invented EVERYTHING.
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    They sure have panhandling figured out!

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