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Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by mtcates, Oct 17, 2010.

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  1. fjord

    fjord New Member

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    ".....and, I will love you in the morning...."

    More dueling banjos. Can we spell "STUPID" ?
    "Stunt" is the operative word.

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  2. SolarAndWood

    SolarAndWood Minister of Fire

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    The original post had a reasonable disclaimer in it. We all have different risk profiles. Its a good thing or a lot of jobs wouldn't get done.
  3. fjord

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    Good points. BUT, let's get serious here.

    1. Many online come to this site for advice from those who call themselves pros WITH experience. Bragging about using a tool admittedly in a dumb fool way to some who may think that you're some professional--pics etc... --compounds the bad advice.
    "Dare you to lick the metal lamppost now @ -10 degrees. "

    2.How does anyone know these posters' background, experience, training, knowledge ? So you got that MS660 with that 60" bar. Then what?

    3. You really want the adrenaline of danger ? Want to really put yourself in harm's way ? Do a night jump. Climb @ a 5.10 rated rock face. Join the Rangers (IF you can pass the training and intelligence). Spend a couple of nights in January above treeline on Mt Washington --no tent. Race motocross on powerlines. Get really macho, not Darwin Award things like Jacka$$ 101 with a tool.

    4. Many of us have gone through easily available professional chainsaw and H.E. training to get a job done efficiently, quickly and safely. "Don't need no training" ? Then sign the contract that public funds will NOT
    be expended to save your skin. But don't brag with pics and faux disclaimers that you're "competent" or a "pro".
    Training: CLP (Certified Logging Professional)
    GOL (Game of Logging) Not a "game".
    Both available in many areas in N. America.

    5. Take a look at fatality rates in trades...and why. You prefer to drive your truck or car without any of the technologies that save your kids' lives ? Fine. Disable them....but don't expect our money to pay for you.

    6. So standing on an unsteady pile cutting below your feet is competent ? Do you do your so-called arborist work from a ladder ? :red:

    That's it. Dismissed.
  4. mtcates

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    Isn't that the truth. I know many people who do things I would never dare to do, and some who would sit on the sidelines and never attempt anything with any degree of danger in it. I guess I fall in between. Heck cleaning a chimney without fall arrest gear, If you do fall you are much more likely to loose your life or get seriously injured falling off a house then me off the top of a wood stack. I bet most everyone here cleans their chimney without a harness and fall arrest. I would bet very few professional chimney sweeps use fall arrest. We look at different situations and make the decision to take an acceptable risk. We all do that, and our perception can be skewed by a false sense of security, such as the example I just mentioned.
  5. midwestcoast

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    Am I missing something here? Why did you need to stand on the stacks to reach the top rows anyway? It's kinda hard to judge, but from the pics I'd guess those stacks were maybe 6' high? Why not just stand on any stable object 2' or so feet high to get the top rows & continue down while standing on the ground?
    BTW I use a harness when cleaning my chimney. Didn't use fall-arrest lanyard last time though, just short-roped at about 2' since I didn't need to move around. It takes about 5 mins to put on & hook up once or twice a year & might save me a 25' fall. I have done my share of stupid/dangerous things in my life though.
  6. fjord

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    No to the first, and not true for the second mis-perception. Stihl justifying a dumb move ?

    Repeat: 3. You really want the adrenaline of danger ? Want to really put yourself in harm’s way ? Do a night jump. Climb @ a 5.10 rated rock face. Join the Rangers (IF you can pass the training and intelligence). Spend a couple of nights in January above treeline on Mt Washington—no tent. Race motocross on powerlines. Get really macho, not Darwin Award things like Jacka$$ 101 with a tool.

    ...and brag about it. Stihl. Done.

    Oh yeah: I'm hearin' those dueling banjos.....real loud now. :lol:
  7. Gooserider

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    First off, you can ask me to tell you about doing things that you thought were acceptably safe... :-/

    Next you can ALL remember that we expect everyone to behave with reasonable politeness around here - something that seems to have gone by the wayside in this thread...

    Finally, since it seems that other than the debate about whether or not the OP's activities were safe or not, which has degenerated considerably, there isn't much useful content here, so this thread is now closed...

    Gooserider
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