1. Welcome Hearth.com Guests and Visitors - Please enjoy our forums!
    Hearth.com GOLD Sponsors who help bring the site content to you:
    Hearthstone Soapstone and Cast-Iron stoves( Wood, Gas or Pellet Stoves and Inserts)

First 1 Ton Cleaning - XXV

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by Mr. Spock, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    The XXV burned though it's first ton without a hitch. Today marked the first full tear down/cleaning and inspection for the stove.

    I hear a lot on this forum that if you don't have pictures it never happened so you asked for it.:)

    My goal is to post the pictures in an organized fashion, each post relating to a specific stove area. Venting is included as well. It may take a while.

    This is my first experaince cracking open the stove and digging in. So just how dirty is this stove going to be?

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Pellets burned:
    46 Geneva
    2 Energex
    2 Hearthsides
    2 Maine Wood Pellet Company
    2 Greene Team

    Venting:
    Pellet Vent Pro 4" , 1 Cleanout Tee, 12ft Vertical through attic

    Stove settings (majority of time):
    Feed Rate 4
    Room Temp Auto 74 deg
    Convection Blower Low
    Damper on intake to prevent "woofing"
    No OAK

    Heating Area : 1000 sq/ft
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Stove location and vent configuration. Vent passes though the attic and terminates
    2 feet above the roof line. Clean out tee is behind the stove.

    xxv.3.jpg

    Next post:
    Tools/Consumables Used

    Helpful Sponsor Ads!





  2. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Tools\Consumables Used

    5/16 Nut Driver (back panel removal)
    7/16 Wrench (combustion fan removal)
    1/8 Allen Wrench (combustion blade set screw)
    1/4 Socket (ESP screw)
    Craftsman 17" Pry bar (burn pot)
    Flat Long Screwdriver (auger and auger tube)
    Bottle Brush (exhaust path/tee)
    Vent Brush 4" with Rods (venting)
    2" Paint Brush( stove interior)
    Flashlight
    Cougar Ash Vac

    High Temp Sealant
    3 in 1 oil
    Vaseline
    ScotchBrite
    Permanent Marker

    tools.jpg


    Next: Venting
  3. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,422
    Loc:
    Winthrop, Maine
    Did I read this correctly? You burned a ton without cleaning the stove at all?
    dlavigne7324 likes this.
  4. gfreek

    gfreek Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2010
    Messages:
    754
    Loc:
    Beautiful Attica/Varysburg,New York
    ShopVac with drywall/ash bag or filter or Ash vac......
  5. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Venting


    Bad?
    cap.before.outside.jpg


    cap.before.inside.jpg

    The cap cleaned up easy enough. A little running water and a soft brush.
    cap.after.jpg


    Next:
    Pipe
  6. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    No sorry. First full tear down cleaning/ inspection. Edited original post.
  7. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,422
    Loc:
    Winthrop, Maine
    Got it.
  8. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Dang how did I forget that :eek: ?? Long day, little tired I guess . Thanks.
    Edited tools/consumables post.
  9. P38X2

    P38X2 Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    1,674
    Loc:
    Jaffrey, NH
    Judging by the thermometer in that first pic, it got pretty nippy in there during the cleaning ;)

    Nice stove :)

    What are you using to clean the burn pot holes? I use a finish nail with a 90° bend in it. Works great.
  10. john193

    john193 Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    932
    Loc:
    Southeast PA
    ahh, i miss my XXV. Great stove and very nice setup. I live about 40 min north of Philly and while rare we do on occasion get temperatures hovering around 0 or the negatives. The XXV didnt even blink an eye. I could always tell how cold it was with how big the fire was, ohh and the best part, when I walked outside I could hear the entire neighborhoods heat pumps buzzing. Silly people, heat pumps are for Florida's winters...:)
  11. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Pipe

    Hard to get a good inside shot of the vertical stack. Would be cool to have a small inexpensive pipe inspection camera.



    before.brush.jpg

    I scratched away some deposits with my finger nail. Very hard under the coating of ash. I don't think I like it. Note: the dark black wet spots are WD-40 applied to loosen the cap.

    creosote.jpg

    After brushing there was still that hard, very thin, layer I believe is creosote. How do I get that out!
    after.brush.jpg

    The tee after a Ton of pellets. Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of it cleaned :: mad::
    I do not recall it having the hard coating like at the top of the stack.

    tee.before.jpg

    Here is the cleanout. Not much ash in there.

    tee.cleanout.before.jpg

    However it did have this ring of dried grease used to lube the vent seal. It made the clean out difficult to remove.

    tee.grease.jpg

    Removed the gunk with WD-40 (not easy) and put a light application of petroleum jelly to
    lube the joint and prevent damage the o-ring seal.

    tee.jelly.jpg

    Here is the high tech vacuum attachment used to capture the dust during brush.

    high.tech.vac.attachment.jpg

    Next: Combustion Air Path
  12. DexterDay

    DexterDay Guest

    Very nice write up.... Nice pics

    (That looks a little light colored to be Sote? Maybe some condensated ash? Sote would have been black?)
  13. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Man you guys have sharp eyes.

    That last vessel floating indicates 64 deg, low as that Galileo goes. It was actually 40 deg today, good day for a clean. Didn't mind it at all, g/f wasn't digging it though.:p

    I use picks for the holes. Post some pics when I cover the interior clean.
  14. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    I have been in your neck of the woods once or twice! I remember the first time I saw Pittsburgh. Amazing. Driving through the tunnels was a blast too. It gets below 0 around here once in a while...mild winter this trip around the sun. Yet to see temps dip below 15 so the XXV is a little bored me thinks.:p
  15. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Thanks Dex. I thought you guys would enjoy it.
    I thought it might be Sote but to be honest I an not sure. What I am wondering is how to remove it without damaging the vent. It's a very thin coating, but after years?
  16. thedude110

    thedude110 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    279
    Loc:
    Central Connecticut
    Great thread -- thanks for this level of detail.

    Love the enamel finish on the XXV -- I steered clear because of the extra cost and because I thought I would chip it. How is it holding up so far?
  17. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Combustion Air Path

    I'll start with the rear end ...

    xxv.exhaust.rear.before.jpg

    ESP Probe just about self cleaned pulling it out (gently of course). It was pretty much
    ash. A very very light coating of carbon was under it.

    xxv.esp.removed.jpg

    Next removed combustion fan. A little dirty.

    xxv.comb.fan.before.jpg

    Coated flue.

    xxv.comb.box.before.jpg

    Flue intake.

    xxv.exhaust.before.jpg

    Exhaust path is open, commence brushing.
    Used the brush below to clean entire exhaust
    path. Held vacuum hose near to capture dust.

    xxv.exhaust.clean.jpg

    With exhaust path cleaned, time to tidy the fan.


    Next: Combustion Fan
    BGStG1aholic likes this.
  18. lessoil

    lessoil Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Messages:
    726
    Loc:
    Rumford, Maine
    Excellent post!!
    Nice looking stove/install.
    I do a full clean every time the ash pan is full and clean the burn pot as needed.
    Do not forget about the sneaky fines box!
  19. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Your welcome. No issues with the enamel.
  20. P38X2

    P38X2 Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    1,674
    Loc:
    Jaffrey, NH
    Keep em coming. Great posts, Mr. Spock.
  21. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Thanks. How long does it take your P61 to fill the ash pan? Choice of pellet? I have gone 2 weeks without basic cleaning aside from scraping the pot a few times a week. I want to say the ash pan is 1/3 - 1/2 full at that point. The ash pan is much bigger on the P61 if I recall.
  22. boo boo

    boo boo Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2012
    Messages:
    300
    Loc:
    So. NH
    Great post
    I Love the looks of that stove
    I cleaned mine yesterday also with the full break down getting ready for the cold front this week will see what she is made of with the below 0 temp
  23. thedak

    thedak Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2011
    Messages:
    119
    Loc:
    Smoke em if u got em'
    Very Nice
  24. Mr. Spock

    Mr. Spock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Messages:
    680
    Loc:
    SW MA
    Combustion Fan

    Here is it again after removal.
    xxv.comb.fan.before.jpg

    After some running water and a tooth brush the
    blade looks like new.

    xxv.fanblade.after.jpg

    Time for the housing.

    xxv.comb.behind.before.jpg

    About 1mm of buildup. Hard to capture
    with camera.

    xxv.comb.behind.ash.depth.jpg

    A vacuum followed by a damp rag cleaned it right up.
    xxv.comb.behind.after.jpg

    Assembled.

    xxv.comb.assembled.after.jpg

    The motor end didn't look bad considering
    how much the dog sheds. No need to crack it
    open this round. Brushed it clean.
    xxv.comb.fan.behind.before.jpg


    Some final assembly shots will come later.

    Next: Fines Box

    First: Walk the dog.:)
    BGStG1aholic likes this.
  25. Richprint29

    Richprint29 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2013
    Messages:
    15
    Loc:
    Newton NJ
    A quick question from a wood burner. Do the temps in the flue of a pellet stove ever reach a point where they could cause a chimney fire? I was just curious, after viewing this thread. Maybe a stupid question, but I don't know anything about these pellet stoves. Forgive me.

Share This Page