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  1. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,971 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
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  2. loadstarken Member

    joined: Dec 16, 2012
    181 posts
    Redmond, WA
    Its a start that makes me happy!

    There is a link to a petition on http://pure-gas.org/ to remove ethanol!
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  3. TreePointer Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 22, 2010
    1,367 posts
    Western PA
    Hooray! This needs to spread across the country.
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  4. save$ Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 22, 2008
    1,712 posts
    Chelsea Maine
    Once a subsidy is in place, there will be enormous blow back from those that will be threatened by removing it. These days, smarter or better doesn't move forward without political support. Hope this one works.
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  5. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    7,152 posts
    central PA
    Wow, I truly hope this gains some real momentum nationally. Funny thing is (not trying to turn it political) but I don't recall ANY of our wonderful media outlets putting this on the evening news.......

    Ethanol-laced gasoline is one of the biggest rackets I've ever seen. And to think they wanna put mobsters in prison, the government is just as bad! That crap has ruined more engines in the past 5 years than you will ever see reported........
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  6. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    It could happen at the local level (and I hope it does), but I doubt if you will see it at a national level. For whatever reason the feds are in love with the idea of ethanol. I also don't want to turn this political, but the fact is that Obama has signed a bill to allow up to 15% ethanol in fuel. MFGs are pushing back, because most engines are not / have not been designed to run on it.
  7. rudysmallfry Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 29, 2005
    310 posts
    Milford, CT
    My stupid state wants to increase the ethanol content. It will void practically every warranty on any engine anywhere. We already get crappy enough mileage with 10% ethanol and pay the highest prices in the country. I'm surprised the rest of New England hasn't kicked us out of the club yet. I'll put a glimmer of hope in the back of my head and be happy that at least Maine has some common sense, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the vibe to trickle down to Connecticut.
  8. rudysmallfry Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 29, 2005
    310 posts
    Milford, CT
  9. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,971 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    They could do this right if they want to use more bio-fuels. Keep the ethanol, manufacturers get on board with using ethanol-compatible materials in fuel systems, and refiners stop giving us junk fuel that de-stabilizes in 30 days. (That's not because of the ethanol believe it or not...) Maybe educate the public on proper/safe fuel storage habits?

    NAH!! - There's no money in that idea! :confused:
  10. nealj Member

    joined: Oct 1, 2009
    8 posts
    mn
    I find it amusing that people used to pay big money for a little red bottle of additive in your gas, now it is in your gas and everyone is complaining about it. Refering to HEAT gas additive. The corn ethanol industry no longer gets a subsidy. The sugar ethanol industry does because epa consders it an advanced biofuel. Guess where sugar ethanol comes from, Brazil.
  11. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,971 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    Close, But HEET is either methanol (yellow bottle) or Iso-HEET (red bottle) which is isopropanol. Lots of engine builders building race motors for E85 too. ;)

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