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Forecast: Big snow in Eastern U.S. cities

Post in 'The Inglenook' started by BrianK, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. BrianK

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    Forecast: Big snow in Eastern U.S. cities
    by Staff Writers
    State College, Pa.
    (UPI) Aug 15, 2012
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    After a 2011-2012 winter that saw little snow, the mid-Atlantic and southern New England states will get a snow dump this winter, forecasters say.

    Above-normal snowfall during winter 2012-2013 is forecast for the major I-95 cities including New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington, AccuWeather.com reported Wednesday.

    "The I-95 cities could get hit pretty good," forecaster Paul Pastelok said. "It's a matter of getting the cold to phase in with the huge systems that we are going to see coming out of the southern branch of the jet stream this year."

    The presence -- and strength -- of El Nino conditions in the Pacific Ocean are used to project how active the winter season will be, forecasters said.

    El Nino warming of ocean water and the air above it causes weather patterns to change globally, and El Nino winters feature a strong southern branch of the jet stream across the United States, AccuWeather.com said.

    When the strong southern jet stream phases with the northern branch of the jet stream, meteorologists said, big storms can hit the east coast.
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  2. fishingpol

    fishingpol Minister of Fire

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    Bring it!

    I just read that article. They base it on past weather patterns and the El Nino/ La Nina transition. It'll make up for what we did not get last year if it holds true.
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  3. Thistle

    Thistle Minister of Fire

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    I hope the midwest gets above normal rainfall in the next 2-3 months then heavy snow for December & January.Still almost 5 inches down for the year,over 3 since June alone.

    I'm ready either way.Barely burned 2 cord last winter,normal is 3 to 4.
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  4. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Accuweather has blown every forecast since Joe Bastardi left. I hope this one maintains their streak.
  5. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Just checked. Even Joe is looking for it to be really cold. He is like the professional wrestler of weather. ;lol
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  6. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    *grumbles*

    Don't need another winter like the one before last.

    Ordered more firewood yesterday.

    Got a bunch (as in a cord or two to be split, need 'um splitter).

    *grumbles again*
  7. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Well, guess it will be a good test for this fully operational stone Deathstar.
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  8. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    I'll be the satellite Death Star, BBar.

    Should be fun *not*
  9. infinitymike

    infinitymike Minister of Fire

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    AAAAHHHHH,

    Hope its not true.
    I have to work outside all year long and I dread the snow and ice.
    Wouldn't mind it if I was retired or independently wealthy;)
  10. Jack Straw

    Jack Straw Minister of Fire

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    Bring it on.....I love winter! It was nice last year not to have 2' of snow in the woods though, made it real easy getting wood out, only rode the snowmobiles once...not so good.
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  11. peakbagger

    peakbagger Minister of Fire

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    Heck the years with lots of snow in the big cities along the east coast usually means less than average snow for my area which is 100 miles away from the coast with the white moutains acting as shield.

    I try to plan for the worst and hope for the best.
  12. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake Minister of Fire

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    Here's to hoping for lots of snow here in Maine . . . lack of snow and cold meant very little snowmobiling which hurt dealers, clubs and businesses that rely on sledders gassing up, buying gear, eating, etc. . . . plus I had to trailer the sled for the three times I did manage to go riding.

    Factor in other businesses that rely on the snow -- ski resorts, places that sell winter outdoor gear (skis, snow shoes, etc.), snow plow businesses, auto body shops, sand and salt dealers, etc. . . . and you can see pretty quickly that there are many who truly like a snowy winter just for the economics of things.

    Finally . . . one word. Bugs. While I will admittedly like a break from the extreme cold and snow and found last winter easier in terms of not having to rake the roof as often or plow the driveway . . . I have noticed that in the past few years of mild winters it seems as though ticks and bugs are really doing well . . . especially since I never saw a tick around here until a few years ago (well other than the occasional tick on the cat.)
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  13. lukem

    lukem Minister of Fire

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    I think we are 15 - 16 inches behind for the year and that was several weeks ago..could be more now. It can precipitate all it wants. Give me a good excuse to get some indoor projects done.
  14. DAKSY

    DAKSY Patriot Guard Rider Staff Member

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    Bring it. Last winter's warmth was an aberration. Much as I'd like to be riding my Geezer Glide all year, winter is supposed to be cold & snowy. If it isn't, great. If it is, so what? 100+ inches of snow from November to April is nothing new round these parts.
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  15. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Yeah but not spending the county and state snow removal budgets doesn't break my heart a bit.
  16. Jack Straw

    Jack Straw Minister of Fire

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    We had so little snow last year that the county was able to cut brush in the ditches most of the winter, thanks to FEMA.
  17. DAKSY

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    I was down your way in March/April on a Patriot Guard Rider mission & I couldn't believe the depth of the rocksalt at the intersections & corners. 1 - 2" deep in spots... We had to ride carefully to avoid hitting that crap & dropping the bikes. Reports up here from guys who work NYSDOT, were that they had to drop "X" number of tons of RS per mile in order to keep their supplies in a "re-order" stage. If they didn't use what they ordered LAST year, their budget would be cut for THIS year. Freekin NYS...
  18. Jack Straw

    Jack Straw Minister of Fire

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    That sounds about right, I saw the state guys plowing bare pavement.
  19. Grisu

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    So what? Does Rocksalt go bad over the summer? If not their budget should be lower this year because they would have plenty of leftover from last year. That just hurts... [​IMG]
  20. MishMouse

    MishMouse Minister of Fire

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    Hope we do not get a bad winter.
    Due to illnesses in my wife's family along with a hot summer I really haven't had that much time to replace the firewood supply.
    I have close to 5 cords of seasoned stuff waiting to go, but it the winter drags on or starts early I will be in trouble come March.
    Hopefully winter comes a little late this year.
    If it is like that winter we had a couple of years ago that burning from August - June is for the birds.
  21. Flatbedford

    Flatbedford Minister of Fire

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    I'll believe it when I see it. Somebody should remember to reopen this thread in January.
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  22. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Used to work for a county government. If we had an easy winter and my department got hit with a need for some quick funding I got in the car and headed over to buy lunch for the General Services Director that had the road budget. He was sitting on a pile of unused dough. He hated that I knew that.

    A regular Boss Hogg in the county.
  23. MasterMech

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    But then they do things like this.....

    They will spend those budgets. No matter what. Even if they have to buy snow. :rolleyes:
  24. n3pro

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    I have to drive for my job, I hope they are wrong but as the thread last winter said - we had it too good for too long paybacks are a @#$%^. We are overdue for a doosy. Guess I'll be happy I upgraded from the Napoleon to the Englander!
  25. Flatbedford

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    I don't remember ever hearing a long term winter forecast for an unusually warm winter. Nobody would buy skis or winter coats or all wheel drive cars. I don't pay much attention to any weather forecast more than 5 days out, and won't take a several month out forecast seriously.
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