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Frustrated at lack of pellet deals in Mass.

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by Boobo0, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. AbetterChimneynm

    AbetterChimneynm Member

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    I dont know about other dealers but we make 10 dollars a ton

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  2. Mike D

    Mike D Feeling the Heat

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    $10/ton? Wow, you're really giving it up on the free delivery with cleaning. How much do you charge for a cleaning? Do you give a discount per ton for cash or check payment?
  3. AbetterChimneynm

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    CLeanings are 92-142 depending on stove dirtyness etc and if they pay with a check they get a discount yes cause the cc's are taking a fortune from us :(
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    Ejectr Minister of Fire

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    _g!!!!!!!!!
  5. Lousyweather

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    wow....$10 bucks a ton?! Now Im wondering if thats NET or GROSS? if its gross, at $10 you arent making money....thats .20 per bag......one broken bag means you have to sell 25 bags or so just to break even. Crazy talk. What about loading/unloading, insurance, sales folks salaries (to name a few things?). Most dealers these days, at least in my area, will make $30-$50 a ton. If not, it frankly isnt worth selling the product......I know its an unpopular view, but pellet and stove dealers are in business TO MAKE MONEY! :eek:

    Cleanings? $149-$169, depending on the stove. That includes travel time. I dunno....how much is time worth? A service vehicle + insurance? Health insurance? Fuel? Dont see it being practical for less.....
  6. AbetterChimneynm

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    We do not mark up the pellets by anymore then 10 dollars a ton as we do not try and make money on pellets the cleanings and stove sales etc are where we make money if we are heading out of town we schedule like 10 cleanings a day in that area so we can keep our cleaning prices lower therefore making money, if i am headed out of town for one cleaning then i charge more but if we can group em the customers save money
  7. Boobo0

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    Yikes! Wouldn't want to do business with that margin.

    So if this is the case, it seems very comparable to our local gas stations - they are making pennies on the gallon and the big wigs are making all the profit. So we must blame the pellet manufacturers? Obviously there's an increase in demand, but I believe their making the most of it. Nothing more than my own opinion......
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  8. Salty

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    I walked through Lowes in Milford Ma here today and 4.38 for everything across all I saw. Greene Team, I think Appalachian was one, and Infernos included ROFLMAO

    I'd burn Infernos again if I got them cheap and could mix them with okies :)

    $10 a ton? That's not even a legitimate business model. that's crazy man. You got to have insurance, telephone, office, cc stuff, tools, maintenance stuff? You'd have to sell 100 tons a month to make $1000
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    If a pellet salesmen only had $10/ton markup here in New England, He'd be selling major volume sales! JK!

    I think the regional stuff might apply here! Don't forget were all rich folk here in NE! !!!
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  10. Boobo0

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    $4.38 for Greene Team? If so, they've dropped it.
  11. Andy P.

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    All the lowes around here have greene team for $5.49. Maine choice and Inferno are $4.38
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    I just came back from Lowes Concord NH, same thing. I won't use those Maine Choice ever again,how bad are the Inferno's ? Guy said they where all hard wood (also said a lot of people had a bad experience with Maines Choice and won't buy them).
  13. imacman

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    Run, do not walk, as fast as you can AWAY from "Inferiors"....they are probably the WORST pellet you can buy. Those Maine Choice are primo compared to the Infernos.
  14. pell it

    pell it Feeling the Heat

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    Infernos are ground up pallets and demolition debris. Hardwood my arse!!
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    Thanks ! I was pretty sure they where crap but couldn't remember. Might have to wait them out a bit and see if they get some more GS's in.Have the Maines Choice gotten any better ?
  16. Lousyweather

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    interesting.....most trusses produced these days in New England are S-P-F (spruce-pine-fir), most noteably NOT hardwood. In fact, I am unaware of a commercial hardwood truss builder in New England at all......and the Infernal website says they are hardwood pellets.....a seeming inconsistency there...
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    I'm in Milford, Ma. and have been looking since last season. I think the days of deals are over. Check out Royal Fireside in Mendon I got a ton and a 1/3 of Lacrete's ( best pellet I have ever burned) for $369 delivered, they also have Oakies for $289 a ton. There is also Pellets Direct in Upton but they charge $69 dollars for delivery regardless of the distance. That is just outrages... other than that there is nothing around on the cheap. Lowes had Maine's Choice which I use for a shoulder pellet and I like those allot.
  18. Lousyweather

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    maybe a bit predjudiced here, but I dont think $69 is a bad price for delivery (as long as it isnt /ton!)....costs money to buy, maintain, insure, fuel, tax, a vehicle (and pay a delivery person). Always figured that if someone doesnt like the delivery price, hey, then just pick the pellets up yourself?

    Okies for $289/ton? Again, not a bad price, given what Okies cost the retailer these days.....

    I think I said this before, but a "deal" is a pretty subjective thing. Your chances for deals are probably going to be alot less during this time of year than it would be in the "off" season, say, April-July. Waiting to buy pellets in the advent of the season is tantamount to waiting to buy roses on Mothers' Day. A bit of planning, and more money might be saved.....
  19. Jack Morrissey

    Jack Morrissey Feeling the Heat

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    South shore wood pellets had decent prices this past spring and summer. Have you looked at their website?
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    Just ordered 2 tons of Turmans for $285 a ton @ http://www.prolawnsupply.com/
    In Worcester............Have 2 tons of Hammers already.........this will be a nice addition to the stash!
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  21. Boobo0

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    Okies for $289 or Ligs for $279, is it a no-brainer to get the Okies?
  22. nhdblfan

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    NH is still not any better for selection. My local lumber yard has Infernos' @ 245 ton,the Lowes is out of Green Supremes they have the Infernos and Maines Choice and I just go off the phone with Home Depot and all they had where Nations Choice(just as bad as Infernos I suspect).Might have to settle for the MC's even thou I had a real bad batch 3 years ago,are they any better ?
  23. Ejectr

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    I paid $289/ton for Oakies back in May.
  24. Boobo0

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    Yes, but is it just worth the $10 extra bucks to get the Okies? Heard good things, but I've never burned them.
  25. Ejectr

    Ejectr Minister of Fire

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    Yes it is... For more BTU's and less ash, hell...$10 is a ltlle more than a pack of cigarettes today that burn and don't give you anything but cancer.
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