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  1. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    what exactly does the bolded text mean? this is from the c450 manual

    Masonry Fireplace Requirements
    • The entire fireplace and chimney must be cleaned
    and inspected before installation. The system
    must meet local building code requirements.
    • The structure and components must be free of
    any defects such as cracks or broken bricks or flue
    tiles. Any damage must be repaired before installation.
    Any opening that may exist between the masonry
    of the fireplace and the facing masonry must be
    permanently sealed.

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  2. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    Sounds to me like they are talking about heatilator type vents.
  3. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    okay, guy said the insulate the damper with kaowool not roxul. Is it the same stuff?
  4. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    kaowool is a similar type product, more expensive for that kind of use however.
  5. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Roxul is mineral wool insulation. Kaowool is spun ceramic insulation. Both are non-combustible, high temp insulations.
  6. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    changed dealers, was looking at clydesdale but wife says too expensive so looking at Hampton I300.

    Calling installers this week to see if they can cut out small section of back of fireplace as I am just under an inch short of clearance for it.
  7. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    installers coming to look thursday, he seemed pretty confident they can make it work, will update after they come
  8. Premier Fireplace MI

    Premier Fireplace MI New Member

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    Just seen this thread.. Are you lining this unit from top to bottom?
  9. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Yes SS liner all the way up
  10. USMC80

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    ok installers came and said they can get it to fit, might have to notch the back out is all. Hopefully ordering the Hampton i300 this saturday. Brother is coming over to help put in a new hearth and thats it. The whole mantel can stay because the clearances on the Hampton will work so the wife is thrilled and will save us money. I will report back with pics of the new hearth when we get it in
  11. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    I think you will like that insert. It's a good looker and puts out the heat.
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  12. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Hope so. I like it, just wish it took bigger splits is all
  13. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    started clearing for new hearth. tomorrow I will remove the top piece of marble and cut out the floor in order to extend the hearth to code

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  14. 6mmbrer

    6mmbrer New Member

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    Just saw this thread. The Clydesdale is too big for your application and size fireplace. You'd have to run it at reduced burn or go naked in 1200 sq. ft. :)
  15. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    finally got the permits today (3 weeks later). Will call the installer tomorrow and setup a day for install
  16. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Install this Friday 1pm. Can't wait!
  17. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    Going back a few posts, I know, but I don't understand the point of a block-off plate with an insert to which you're directly connecting the liner. The block off plate is used to hold the insulation in place, when terminating the liner at some point above the stove, using a stove pipe to connect the stove to the liner. In an insert install, where the liner is going straight to the stove, it serves minimal purpose. As the installer indicated, he can just stuff the insulation into the void above the stove. I don't understand why you would choose to switch dealers based on this, unless you had reasons beyond this block off plate issue.
  18. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    ya went with totally different stove, that dealer was for the jotul. Plus they wanted a ridiculous amount to bring in the single door version because they were trying to get rid of the older two door one
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  19. USMC80

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    worked out for the best in the end as we didn't have to rip out the mantle as we met all clearances with the Hampton
  20. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Would it be silly to have a break in fire tonight? Temps are going to be around 48-50 degrees. Have some 3 year seasoned wood and really wanna try this thing out. Just excited and don't want to wait until fall lol
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  21. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    Not silly at all, open up the windows and do your break in fires, just be prepared for the lovely break in smell that comes from the paint.

    Did you post pics on how you handled the trim on the floor?
  22. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Didn't trim it out yet, hoping next weekend.
  23. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Finally!!!

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  24. Holzstapel

    Holzstapel Member

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    That is a sweet install! Great job all around.
  25. USMC80

    USMC80 Minister of Fire

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    Thanks. I love it!

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